Tony George ousted from IMS

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30th May 2009, 17:07
garyshell

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

If Miller had the knowledge of motorsports that Limbaugh has of political science, France and Ecclestone would be licking his shoe-laces.

Did you really just use the words knowledge and Limbaugh in the same sentence? :eek:

Gary
30th May 2009, 18:37
Bob Riebe

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Originally Posted by garyshell

Did you really just use the words knowledge and Limbaugh in the same sentence? :eek:

Gary

He has forgotten more about poitical functioning than you, Dem., or it seems the general populace, will ever know.
Proven by the fear Dem. have shown in dealing with him.

I love it, they say-- don't listen to him, he is not important, well, if one is not important, then it is asininely stupid to tell people to not listen to that one.

Of course the Dem. always fall back on calling, those who do something they do not like, vilely hateful and prejudiced names, proving these people they attack are causing them to leave brown streaks in their under-pants.
30th May 2009, 21:00
SarahFan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

He has forgotten more about poitical functioning than you, Dem., or it seems the general populace, will ever know.
Proven by the fear Dem. have shown in dealing with him.

I love it, they say-- don't listen to him, he is not important, well, if one is not important, then it is asininely stupid to tell people to not listen to that one.

Of course the Dem. always fall back on calling, those who do something they do not like, vilely hateful and prejudiced names, proving these people they attack are causing them to leave brown streaks in their under-pants.

what I really find interesting is the folks that can't understand guys like rush are nothing more than actors playing a part..

might as well be a cartoon character
31st May 2009, 00:15
Chaparral66

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

I had some faith last year because at least I figured we had momentum with the merger (the fact Tony agreed to a merger that at least gave the CCWS crowd an honourable way to save face), and a misplaced view that Brian Barnhart knew what he was doing. I wasn't sold on Tony's marketing and sales, but I was cautiously optimistic he may have learned something. This year, I am less so, but I don't know what can be done in this economic climate. My whole point, and always was that the seeds of this mess always went back to his original jihad to rule the OW world in North America. This sport was not without fault in 1994, but it didn't deserve the last decade and a half.

I have no faith in Tony personally to understand the series, and it is why I find it troubling they wont let him run the Speedway in the future it seems, but they want him running the IRL. My god, he has no idea on what to do with the IRL, it is the reason he is spending money like water. The Speedway makes money, and he has done a great job keeping it a showpiece. That is what he knows. Marketing of a series? Understanding Racing from the spectator at home, the team owner, or the fan in the stand? He doesn't grasp these realities and he should have handed the series over to someone who does a long time ago.

It was an ancedote that RM told on Wind Tunnel a few years back that convinced me Tony doesn't get it. RM reported on TG getting the team owners/managers together for a pre-season meeting and they were on him for all the costs of racing, and Tony scolded them for spending money on hospitality. He of course thought they were doing all of this just for fun, when in reality the hospitality aspect is the payback to the sponsors for signing LARGE checks to allow you to run. He didn't grasp the concept. THAT my friends is the thinking that has brought us to this point.

I have always said it, and sometimes bitten my tongue, but TG has not learned enough from his mistakes these past 14 years. He does not understand this sport in a manner that leads me to believe he can lead it. I have been quiet the last year on this because I wanted to be wrong in that he had learned, but I don't think he has.

Nice man, nice race track, give up being a series manager.....

Humpy Wheeler would do wonders. Everyone knocks his lack of "OW" pedigree, but the guy is a master promoter and he knows a good idea when he see's it. I guarntee you that if he was running IMS this year, the second Brian Barnhart tried to stop Helio from climbing that fence, the old boxer would be in Brian's face telling him that unless he wanted his jaw around his ear, to shut his trap and let the man climb the fence..... Humpy knows how to put on a show, and THAT is what the Indy 500 and the IRL NEEDS.

I agree. Humpy Wheeler has the common sense to understand the fans love seeing Helio climb the fence; it's his tradition that is catching on in other areas of racing. That's what get the photographers' attention, which what gets seen in the media. Humpy also has a charm and wit about him that Barnhart doesn't have, and that would help in getting sponsors to listen to his presentation.

BTW, Comedian Rush Limbaugh is to knowledge what a butcher is to open heart surgery.
31st May 2009, 02:12
jackmart

idk why but i can't read the orginal article can someone paste it in this thread please?
31st May 2009, 02:43
The instant classic

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Originally Posted by jackmart

idk why but i can't read the orginal article can someone paste it in this thread please?

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...sted-from-ims/
31st May 2009, 03:27
jackmart

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Originally Posted by The instant classic

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...sted-from-ims/

do you have to be a memebr bc I wanted someone to copy and paste the words not the link bc the link brings up a blank page for me.
31st May 2009, 03:33
garyshell

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

He has forgotten more about poitical functioning than you, Dem., or it seems the general populace, will ever know.
Proven by the fear Dem. have shown in dealing with him.

I love it, they say-- don't listen to him, he is not important, well, if one is not important, then it is asininely stupid to tell people to not listen to that one.

Of course the Dem. always fall back on calling, those who do something they do not like, vilely hateful and prejudiced names, proving these people they attack are causing them to leave brown streaks in their under-pants.

Uh huh, sure. If you say so. :eek:

Gary
31st May 2009, 05:49
SportscarBruce

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Originally Posted by Lousada

He is supposedly getting the boot from IMS, not from the IRL. Perhaps the family is not so worried about the IRL and the 500, but more worried about the 400 and the motorace. How are ticketsales doing for the by400 after last years debacle? Perhaps that's why they want Humpy Wheeler????

If anybody is getting "the boot" due to last year's BY 400 by rights it should be Brian France and his COT POS. How many years did NASCAR and Goodyear run successful 400 mile races at the Speedway prior to last year? 14 or or so? The 2005 edition ran on the coarse, diamond ground surface of that year.

Despite all the spinning and finger-pointing by NASCAR TV press from 2008 the truth is inescapable once all the factors are examined, the COT design was responsible. Brian France was responsible. Not the IMS. Not Tony George. Brian France.

Plus, if ticket sales are lagging for the BY 400 that is due to the product scheduled to race on that date. The Indy 500 practically sold out, it did so with a mere fraction of the promotional effort NASCAR enjoys across multiple network ownership groups (networks who actually practice cross-promotion, unlike ABC's non-existant cooperation with Versus and Indycar).

Again, the buck stops with Brian France on this one. Not IMS. Not Tony George. BRAIN FRANCE.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled forum baloney....
31st May 2009, 07:59
jackmart

Ok still no idea what's going on bc I can't read the article but I found this on indycar.com

Statement from IndyCar Series team owners:
During the past week there have been many rumors and innuendos about our CEO Tony George. We, the IndyCar team owners, want to express our full support to Tony. As an innovator and leader of our sport, he continually strives to help and improve IndyCar racing, and for that we are exceptionally grateful.
A.J. Foyt Racing
Andretti Green Racing
Dale Coyne Racing
Dreyer and Reinbold Racing
HVM Racing
KV Racing Technology
Luczo Dragon Racing
Newman/Haas/Lanigan Racing
Panther Racing
Target Chip Ganassi Racing
Team 3G
Team Penske

http://www.indycar.com/news/?story_id=14193

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