Mosley wants action to 'save' F1

The only prblem with a diesel powered F1 car is it wont sound as brilliant as a petrol powered version. Lets face it, nothing in this universe sounds as good as an F1 engine at full cry.

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Originally Posted by Rollo

...what would happen for someone like Renault where the associated costs might appear anywhere within the PSA group.

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That would be weird, cause Renault isn't part of the PSA Group (Peugeot & Citroen). ;)

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

I wouldn't call it obsession Daniel. Just an enjoyment of the kind of variety - engines, designs - we used to see on an F1 grid. Perhaps that in itself didn't make for better racing, but I think it improved the spectacle.

Innovation then was a "big idea" - the Tyrrell P34, the Brabham 'fan car', the ground effect Lotus, even the twin chassis Lotus - not evolution of an idea, which is what I think we've seen with the development of aero over the years.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I agree, but then F1 runs the risk of becoming boring if someone comes up with a stunning innovation and blitzes every race as a result.

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Therein rests the dilemma :)

Set the rules, allow the teams to race and may the best team win. Or set the rules to level the playing field and improve the "show".

The former is the way F1 has worked. The latter the way it appears it may work in the future, and if that is the case I fear that F1 is about to join the many other spec-series that already exist, and are still being created (see A1GP, Superleague & F2).

It's a bit like watching the "dumbing down" of TV with the proliferation of "talent" shows :dozey:

I disagree Arrows. F1 will always be top dog in regards to racing because the cars will always be the fastest.. I don't think the general public will care about a spec engine. The purists will but what percentage of viewers are purists?

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I disagree Arrows. F1 will always be top dog in regards to racing because the cars will always be the fastest.. I don't think the general public will care about a spec engine. The purists will but what percentage of viewers are purists?

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But they wont be, at this rate IRL will have a considerably better series.

Will the IRL race at Monaco, Spa and so on?

^No, but then what has that got to do with the performance of an F1 car.

Besides, if F1 cars get much slower than GP2 well be able to qualify on pace for an F1 race.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I disagree Arrows. F1 will always be top dog in regards to racing because the cars will always be the fastest.. I don't think the general public will care about a spec engine. The purists will but what percentage of viewers are purists?

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Actually, F1 cars aren't always the fastest. In the late 60's and early 70's the Can-Am series shared some of the same tracks with F1 and they were seconds a lap faster! On top of that, Can-Am cars had a very high level of innovation and most were built by "garagistes."

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Originally Posted by Daniel

F1 will always be top dog in regards to racing because the cars will always be the fastest..

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I think F1 has been seen as the pinnacle of motorsport for a number of reasons, not just speed. As others have pointed out there are, and have been, faster cars out there, so it has to be more than that.

Young drivers aim for F1 more than anything else. Few get there, which emphasises its exclusivity. Then there are the locations around the world, the teams, and all the history, as well as the cars themselves.

I don't think there is a series that can offer all of that. Certainly some have the history & tradition (Indy), some have a location (Le Mans), but none can offer a driver what F1 offers, and I think that's why it's seen as being top dog.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I don't think the general public will care about a spec engine. The purists will but what percentage of viewers are purists?

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As someone who has only a vague knowledge of the technology involved I think you're right about the general public not particularly caring about the spec engine, but that's where I hope the "purists" (including those in FOTA) will still have some influence on the future shape of F1. If not, we will see the dumbing down of F1.