Hamilton Stripped of Win - Official

It is such a shame that after a thrilling race, we have to nit-pick over the finest details such as 'did he gain an advantage?', 'but that was negated as he ran off the road', 'we can prove he was 6kph slower over the line' and so on. It really turns our sport into a farce.

This has done nothing but harm F1 in the eyes of its fans (but since when did Bernie or Max care about the fans - as long as the corporate sponsors are happy...)

For the first time in years I didn't see all of the race, but the fact that ioan doesn't think it's a fair punishment says it all to me :D

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Originally Posted by Aikidoka

Yep - and based on what I saw, the penalty was undeserved. He relinquished the place willingly, and even passed Kimi twice on the same lap.

I believe 25 seconds was used, not as a quantifier, but as an indication of what he would have lost had he been given a drive-through, which is the usual penalty for cutting a chicane.

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Is there a limit for how long the stewards have to issue a penalty? Similar to how a driver has 3 laps to serve a penalty.

From one of the links posted earlier there is also a suggestion that McLaren checked it with Charlie Whiting as to it's legitimacy which makes the penalty even more harsh, especially as it was issued retrospectively. It's also likely that Lewis would have slowed in the last couple of laps whereas if he'd had say 2 laps after a drive through he might have been able to make up a bit of time. Not saying that e would have done, nor could close the gap, just that the way the penalty was issued was sneaky and underhanded.

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Originally Posted by Sleeper

What makes you assume that in those conditions Raikkonen would have been able to accelerate out of the corner quickly and not have Hamilton over the back of him, given that he was so much slower in the wet anyway (the chicane looked considerably wetter than Le Fagnia (sp?) were he spun). Pure speculation given how those last 3 laps went anyway.

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What makes you think Lewis wouldn't have turned into a goat if he had gone around the track properly and had to retire due to not having an opposable thumb on each finger to grip the wheel with? Lets talk about what happened after he went off. Not what we thought would have happened.

I'm pretty sure the stewards have 25 laps to impose a penalty but when an incident occurs only 2 laps from the end any question asking about how long a steward has to impose a penalty is surely irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by Gubbi

So completely corrupt.

Hamilton cut through the bus stop chikane to avoid colliding with Raikkonen. Hamilton's front wheels where clearly in front of Raikkonen's rear wheels, so Raikkonen forcing Hamilton off the track was an illegal move.

On top of that Hamilton lets Raikkonen pass him down the straight. Raikkonen does a zig-zag manoeuvre and loses speed and Hamilton overtakes him again.

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and to make matters worse, LH lost the lead to Kimi further into the lap, which would then have nullified ANY advantage perceived to have been gained by the incident, Kimi then went ahead and spun, allowing LH to take the lead and then he spun out later. So you mean that LH gained an unfair advantage?

and the fact that Kimi retook the lead later did not mean anything?
Even though they both had to take evasive action because of rosberg?(which probably was a yellow flag situation and this kimi passed LH under a yellow, or at the very least gained an unfair advantage due)

I am shocked, completely shocked, and deeply saddened for LH, McLaren and all F1 fans the world over. The fallout from these actions are just beginning. I am sure sponsors aren't happy about this,the other teams won't be happy about this, and if Ferrari had any self respect and sportsmanship in them they would show up at the appeal and state that LH did not gain any advantage.

I am actually sick from this decision. I can't even type anymore!

I agree what Daniel has written 100%.I would just like to add that Kimi was quite glumshi protecting the line in the next corner.I also believe that in those conditions it would not have taking long Lewis to over take correctly.
Lewis has been the best driver this year so he deservs to win the Championship unless he starts to make mistakes as last year.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

When I saw that taking place I kinda wondered about whether there would be trouble over this . Indeed , there is .

Lewis went off-track and , although he let Kimi back into the lead , he was granted the perfect entry into Kimi's slipstream with the move .
Had he lft any attempt until after the next corner , he would not have been changed with this .

The "concertina" effect , with Kimi ahead into the corner , would have allowed a greater distance between before La Source .
He could have gotten him up the hill .
It wasn't just for Kimi that second wasn't good enough .

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Exactly.

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Originally Posted by truefan72

kimi passed LH under a yellow, or at the very least gained an unfair advantage

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Didn't Lewis himself say he was going off when he came up against Nico, so Kimi can't really be classed as over taking?
Still think the whole thing is unfair :(

Also, can McLaren actually appeal a drivethru? Even a post race one?
Am seeing mixed opinions on this.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

When I saw that taking place I kinda wondered about whether there would be trouble over this . Indeed , there is .

Lewis went off-track and , although he let Kimi back into the lead , he was granted the perfect entry into Kimi's slipstream with the move .
Had he lft any attempt until after the next corner , he would not have been changed with this .

The "concertina" effect , with Kimi ahead into the corner , would have allowed a greater distance between before La Source .
He could have gotten him up the hill .
It wasn't just for Kimi that second wasn't good enough .

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correction..Lewis didn't pass Kimi because of the slipstream (proof..he was even 6 kmh slower on the finishline) but due to later breaking..big difference there !