Donkey of the Race (Canada GP Edition)

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Originally Posted by truefan72

But not beleiving that race plays a bit of a factor too (when in fact it already has) is probably not wanting to beleive such a thing rather than the reality of human nature, and people's (even on this forum) misgivings.

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So don't criticize any non-white person for anything they have done, no matter how stupid or you're being racist??? So if we called Idi Amin a cruel, murderous, dictator, we're being racist, right?

if they had of left McLaren where they should have been at the end of pit lane
? why the f**& do they keep moving them.

the whole McLaren crew donkey

I'm sure Hamilton was very disappointed that the accident happened - because it destroyed his race.. ;)

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Why continue to be angry at Hamilton when it doesn't help anything and doesn't change what happened

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Agree, once you go back, you never go back ;)

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Originally Posted by truefan72

as is mine
sometimes I wonder about a few of you on this forum or if you actually read the posts or just dissect it and look for stupuid reasons to validate your own biases or insecurities.

I clearly stated in this thread and others that Hamilton was the donkey of the race. I also stated that the 10grid penalty was stiff but not unwarranted.

What I objected to was the visceral natureof the comments towards LH which didn't seem to be the same for Kimi when he ran into the back of sutil. or evwen Rosberg for the exact same mistake. Or for Massa and Fisi last year for running the red light in the same bloody track.

just check your statments and then realize that the animosity towards Hamilton is trully of a different proportion and you got to wonder why.
I said, AMONGST OTHER REASONS that race plays a factor as well. just as envy does, or the fact that he has an ego, or the fact that he's beeing hailed by the press for his achievements to date.

So if you are unwilling or unable to read an entire thread and would rather selectively ingnore other aspects and then choose to attack me instead of engaging in a dialogue, then that's all I need to know. Incidentally that same tactic explains your miopic view of Hamilton as well which isn't the least bit surprising.

cheers
LOL

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LOL!!!!!
Pathetic post. You accused us of being racists at first, now we are also all jealous of him. What`s next?
It is hard to engage in a dialogue with someone if that person first makes unsubstantiated attacks on you, without any proof whatsoever.

To try to make this more understandable for you, let`s say you hate Jean Todt, which I think you do actually. Now what if I was to explain your hatred for him, amongst other things, for having a huge hatred for jewish people and also with the fact that you are jealous/envious of his success. What would you think of that?
Yeah, next time someone attacks Bernie, I will also say "part of the reason why you hate Bernie, is because he is jewish." And as we have seen with you, no proof needed!

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Originally Posted by truefan72

I've insulted nobody and as my comments were to those who saw fit to add a level of unecessary adjectives in describing hamilton. Numbnuts, blind man, idiot, boy, etc, etc, etc,

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Point out the racism in those attacks or do they turn racist when made towards a non-white person, but are perfectly non-racist when used to describe a white person?

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and those who can't even accept the fact that he apologised to Kimi.

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He is yet to properly apologize.

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As I said before, my argument was not about the penality or LH obvious mistake, but more to do with the nature of the comments about himon thisd thread. many of which, along with idiotic nicknames, don't seem to materialize with any other driver.

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:rotflmao: Yeah, no other driver has been referred to with really offensive nicknames for sure.

Also, kindly point out the nicknames he has been referred to that you so much take an offence in.

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but do find the vitriol hurled towards LH somewhat excessive in comparison to other drivers.
why is that?

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Because quite frankly, no other driver is as arrogant, hyped, manufactured and unlikeable as he is.
It is really shocking how I (and no doubt countless others too) have gone from liking him so much at the beginning of last year, to disliking him so much now.

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Originally Posted by wmcot

So don't criticize any non-white person for anything they have done, no matter how stupid or you're being racist??? So if we called Idi Amin a cruel, murderous, dictator, we're being racist, right?

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Absolutely.
truefan72`s logic seems to say so anyway.

Actually, I expect him to post evidence of this racism accusations, and if he can`t, then a public apology should be in order.

I have to agree with Garry Walker!

I did also like him back at the start of 2007, but gradually he has become immersed in his own ego - not helped by the media, who think he can do no wrong and label every mistake he makes as "His first mistake". I can think of at least five big mistakes he has made, yet they are all referred to as his first one!

He simply believes his own hype, and therefore won't accept responsibility for mistakes, preferring to blame "the rules".

The guy previously was confident. Now he's just arrogant. There is a big difference.

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Originally Posted by Bezza

I have to agree with Garry Walker!

I did also like him back at the start of 2007, but gradually he has become immersed in his own ego - not helped by the media, who think he can do no wrong and label every mistake he makes as "His first mistake". I can think of at least five big mistakes he has made, yet they are all referred to as his first one!

He simply believes his own hype, and therefore won't accept responsibility for mistakes, preferring to blame "the rules".

The guy previously was confident. Now he's just arrogant. There is a big difference.

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completely agree! Thing is no one likes a cocky git. Boasting of his way compared to others into the chicane at Canada after the straight just said it all. Just do it, do try and show your competitors as 2nd class racers. Idiot!

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Originally Posted by Bezza

The guy previously was confident. Now he's just arrogant. There is a big difference.

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Not really. It all depends how it's presented and at the moment much of the comment about Hamilton is deliberately negative.

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Because quite frankly, no other driver is as arrogant, hyped, manufactured and unlikeable as he is.
It is really shocking how I (and no doubt countless others too) have gone from liking him so much at the beginning of last year, to disliking him so much now.

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I agree with Garry Walker too!! It is shocking just how quickly people have turned on Hamilton.

only a few but most of us who are not his fans, there was no question of turning quickly or anything like that....

Also the media comments being negative about him? Maybe in the Finnish & Spanish press but you must be joking if you think what BBC etc are writing about him is negative (ever!) ...but I still stick to reading BBC Sport (its the same with English football) :)

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Originally Posted by Storm

Also the media comments being negative about him?

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I didn't mean the media :D