World Idiots

:rolleyes:

I'm slightly confused (due to being overworked and sleep-deprived). Either I did get Vresi's message in post #115 (which is highly likely :p : )... Or fousto got it right in post #116, and I've misunderstood post #115 (which seems really unlikely - and that's got nothing to do with the whole "I'm always right" sort of thing).

As for Howard, he's nuts yet some stupid people here keep insisting that he stays on as PM. :rolleyes: If you guys don't already know, there'll be a federal election sometime this year.

How the heck can a machining process be traced into any particular country?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,251406,00.html

Three senior U.S. military officials in Baghdad said the "machining process" used in the construction of the deadly bombs had been traced to Iran.

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How the heck can a machining process be traced into any particular country?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,251406,00.html

Three senior U.S. military officials in Baghdad said the "machining process" used in the construction of the deadly bombs had been traced to Iran.

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I'm not sure this is the case, but armor-piercing is usually done by means of depleted uranium. Uranium from different sources has a "fingerprint" which is given by the distribution of isotopes within. If that's the case, the source can be traced with certainty.

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Originally Posted by tinchote

I'm not sure this is the case, but armor-piercing is usually done by means of depleted uranium. Uranium from different sources has a "fingerprint" which is given by the distribution of isotopes within. If that's the case, the source can be traced with certainty.

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My idea of "machining processes" are metal work processes like drilling, grinding, etc.

Moral of the story: If two idiots are quarrelling, you shouldn't get involved unless you want to be the third idiot:

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...0.html?cnn=yes

Is Iran to Blame? Iraq's Sunnis and Shi'a Don't Agree
Monday, Feb. 12, 2007 By APARISIM "BOBBY" GHOSH

The Sunnis say, "We told you so." The Shi'ites say, "Look who's talking." Iraq's leaders are divided along sectarian lines on almost every issue, big and small, so it should come as no surprise that the two sides have totally different views on the latest U.S. accusations about Iran supplying arms and know-how to Iraqi militias.

U.S. officials tag elements from Tehran but can't seem to finger their Iraqi cohorts.

The accusations were welcomed by Sunni politicians, who have long maintained that Tehran supports Shi'a death squads and militias. "We diagnosed this problem a long time ago," Salim al-Jabouri, a prominent Sunni member of Iraq's parliament, told TIME. "It was expected that the Americans would come to the same conclusion."

But Shi'a politicians, who comprise the largest block of the parliament and have close ties to Tehran, dismissed U.S. claims as propaganda by a Bush administration seeking to deflect blame for the American military's failure to curb the growing violence in Iraq. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has maintained a studied silence; Ali al-Dabbagh, his official spokesman, told TIME the government has no comment on the latest accusations. But an official in the Prime Minister's office questioned the credibility of U.S. intelligence, pointing to recent reports of evidence-fudging at the Pentagon in the lead-up to the invasion of Iraq. "They need a scapegoat, so they conveniently point to their old enemy, Iran," said the official, who asked not to be named because he is not authorized to talk to the media. "But these days American intelligence is a discredited commodity. Who can believe them?"

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I'm not sure this is the case, but armor-piercing is usually done by means of depleted uranium. Uranium from different sources has a "fingerprint" which is given by the distribution of isotopes within. If that's the case, the source can be traced with certainty.

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I hadnt heard of thse IEDs before but if you read the link I think the precision machining process relates to the concave, steel dish that forms the 2000 metre/ second armour piercing projectile. Not many processors in the region could manufacture those, I'd imagine.

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Not many processors in the region could manufacture those, I'd imagine.

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And what says they have to come within "the region"? International arms dealers are happy to deliver to whom ever have the money to pay.

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At least Chavez is a man who's not afraid to speak his mind and give tit for tat.

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Ya we don't to wonder about Chavez, we know HE is a moron. Eki, Chavez in about 10 years will be seen as one of the worst things to ever happen to Venezuela. He wont be happy until he runs everything in that nation, and then cloak himself in the mantle of a democratically elected leader.

Meanwhile, apparently the Canadian and American embassies are swamped with Venezueleans with money and skills wanting out.

OH he speaks his mind alright, but just being forthright doesn't make you worthy of praise, being intelligent and having something constructive to add to the world's issues does. Hugo just demonizes the Americans because that is his game. You admire that of course Eki, but you like people with worthless anti-Bush platitudes...

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At least Chavez is a man who's not afraid to speak his mind and give tit for tat.

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Neither were Hitler or Stalin. Neither is Bush. So what? :confused:

Fact is that Chavez is doing a lot of damage to Venezuela and to the rest of South America.

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My idea of "machining processes" are metal work processes like drilling, grinding, etc.

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You are reading too much in those words. The same article says that they are not willing to give detailed information about the process used to determine the origin of the weapons. You may not believe them because of that, but to attack the truth of the investigation because of those words used is silly.