And some recent drivers might be worthy as well. Markko Martin maybe? Or Latvala (being the winningest non-champion)or Hirvonen?Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
(I say this as a younger fan, of course without downplaying the legends you mentioned)
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And some recent drivers might be worthy as well. Markko Martin maybe? Or Latvala (being the winningest non-champion)or Hirvonen?Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
(I say this as a younger fan, of course without downplaying the legends you mentioned)
Are you serious??????Quote:
Originally Posted by T16
Latvala in any hall of fame would make it a joke, although if they include all the champions and no one else, it is a joke anyway.
Everyone has its own opinion about who should be in that list...
That list cannot contain everyone, some should stay out.
Markku Allen. Henri Toivenen should really have been included, probably the brightest star of his era, taken far too soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by T16
Cheers Norm... I didn’t know much about Allen. Googled mr maximum attack last night and saw who it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norm75
Yeah, I agree with Mouton... she 100% should have been included and Toivenen too. Bit strange they’ve just included champions, when so many others left a mark in the sport.
Alen and Munari won the drivers FIA cup before it had a World Championship value.
Drivers with most wins but no championship title:
Alen 19
Latvala 18
Hirvonen 15
(the rest have considerably less wins. Neuville would be next with 9)
drivers title runner-ups without championship title:
Frequelin (1981)
Mouton (1982)
Alen (1986, 1988)
Fiorio (1989)
Delecour (1993)
Hirvonen (2008, 2009, 2011, 2012)
Latvala (2010, 2014, 2015)
Neuville (2013, 2016, 2017, 2018)
FIA cup was not WC just in his name but in fact it was imho.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
p.s. Hirvonen was runner up also in 2012 :)
I added in Hirvonen 2012 but I don't understand what you mean with the first statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
The drivers FIA Cup was an international rally competition with the highest value. It was not called "world rally championship" but it was a world rally championship. So they should have considered Alen and Munari as champions in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL