c3 seems to have longer suspension travel from ds3.Dont remember to have see so much travel at any ds3 photos.
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c3 seems to have longer suspension travel from ds3.Dont remember to have see so much travel at any ds3 photos.
The wider track of 2017 cars shall help to achieve bigger suspension travel for all teams since the main limiting factor (as per words of VW designers) is the reliably useful angular range of the driveshaft joints.
Ever since the cars have gone to long travel suspension I have wondered repeatedly just how much travel they actually have. (since I pay the rent making among other things suspension).
Early 1990s it was around 200mm travel.. Mid 90s I have some Group A Lancia front inserts and they were 225mm...
Most of what I make is 200-210mm...
Clearly the really long arms and the gentler arc they make allows the CVs to be less stressed but I really still cannot find any real published number for the travel...
Does anybody really know?
And Latvala breaking things... Well some people just break things..
I had a friend who did the same events I did in '77 and 79 doing International moto-cross mostly in France but also Suisse and Belgie and he was just a bit faster and just a bit heavier but same bikes and same wheels...and same suspension--about 310mm back, 300mm front..and he broke or collapsed wheels frequently, while I would do a check occasionally but could do 2 seasons without any worries or thoughts.. KTM and Husqvarna had good wheels,:love:..
But he's break them..
maybe br21 can help us with recent r5 travel at gravel and asphalt.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Focus WRC -06 had 280mm travel rear and 300mm front(with rough rally option +20mm)travel. This is damper travel not wheel travel.Current WRC Fiesta is very close though I don`t know exact figures, R5 Fiesta has slightly less travel than WRC.
New C3 has dampers situated like VW, Skoda and Ford next to driveshafts not on top which allows more travel. As has TMR Toyota(TMG Toyota had as Hyundai and DS3)
Hanninen at Spain testing Yaris(5th day)
https://youtu.be/1FmqSpbuUiA
Now it finally looks and sounds like WRC should.
no lunch control and antilag though yet.
Do we know exact regulations? Not saying it's the case but it would be interesting to know if they can use electric turbo to completely avoid ALS.
2017 regulations say the following:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
The turbocharger must be single turbocharger, with single stage compression and expansion, and must not have variable pitch or variable geometry.
I guess the electric turbo count as a second turbo, so not allowed.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that the electric turbos used in the F1 or Le Mans are actually normal exhaust-driven turbos where only the initial rotation is made by the electric motor to remove the lag, i.e. it's only a kind of electric ALS. Do I undertsand it right?
Yeah you are. It is a motor generation unit (called MGU) that can be used both for PTO and PTI). It is used a bit complexely like spooling up turbo and it is rumored that it is also used in overtake situations to boost the turbo further... Not sure whether this is true or not thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Also the gearbox is coupled to such a unit and it has the same properties only bigger size
TBH I was not familiar with technology around e-turbos. After looking it up it seems you are indeed right. The electric motor turns the turbo when you fo from off to on throttle. It would be interesting to know the power consumption of such an electric motor, I dont believe they can be driven from normal battery. They seem to store energy in a super-capacitor when you go off throttle, i.e. doing partly the work of a wastegate. For WRC max voltage allowed is 16v.
On another note, only a list of FIA approved turbos are allowed, all from Garrett.
See your PM
Thanks, it's clear now that they can't use them.
Sordo testing at Sardegna
https://www.facebook.com/DanielSordo...046602/?type=3
Neuville pre Sardegna test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGF0s_bF7OU
Sordo testing for Sardegna
https://youtu.be/8Mt7owNeHC0
https://vimeo.com/166687670 know it's test 2 from portugal but this C3 looks the part and looks like a Polo beater:)
Should we be reading anything into the fact that Lappi is testing the EVEN/Printsport Fabia R5 today? Maybe just an additional bit of seat time that wasn't scheduled with the factory?
https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/s...413184?lang=en
Gronholm testing polo 2017
https://twitter.com/Traxx_WiF/media
Probably also helping OC Veiby with gravel setup. (Veiby driving 11.6 Enset-rally, Finland)Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Guys, does anybody knows the location (name please) of that beautiful Water Splash in Argentina? I really want to make a trip to watch WRC for the first time on that place!
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THIS water splash in argentina.. Maybe SS15? Does anybody knows the name of that location?
Cheers
Marcus testing today new Polo Wrc 2017 in Sardegna
full gallery photos => http://goo.gl/IEjQ4p
different front bumper at these tests.
Msport also in test for Sardegna with Ostberg http://goo.gl/uqLt3P
Santa Rosa de Calmuchita- San Agustin has 9 water splashes? Same road has been used in Dakar? You might need to go through the long video highlights, the short video highlights do not appear to cover that water splash.Quote:
Originally Posted by giu canbera
http://www.redbull.com/nz/en/motorsp...s-photogallery (might be this 3rd photo down)
the bumper...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
DAY TEST - Ogier - POLO WRC 2017 Sardegna - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0fY...ature=youtu.be
Looks tons better with that bumper... Also who's surprised they broke the first one?Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
In the 2nd part of the video I think he's in the current car not the 2017 version. It was a mixed test for Sardinia and the new car.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
Camilli testing at Sardegna
https://youtu.be/DGWNQFA5kR4
Ah yes, could be!Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
Toyota with Nikara and Mäkinen in finland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqIQiK6F-4s
maybe on my top 5 photos
Meeke testing new c3
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/mont...1465218407.jpg
This is very Nose End First:D
that picture brings novikov to my mind...lol
Meeke's quote with this:
'I get asked a lot if testing is boring.. ' https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f914.png
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/mont...1465218407.jpg
Citroen in Finland today (gallery photos) http://goo.gl/9LGlZi
Meeke & C3 'TEST3' - anyone spot anything different apart from the paintjob ?
New vid: https://www.facebook.com/mwmsports/v...type=2&theater
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkXzOG_WYAE2sbC.jpg