The Ferrari thread !

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Originally Posted by skc

Case closed but you're a bit of a wally that likes argueing for the sake of it so I'm off :wave:

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Excuse me, because I have a different opinion is no excuse for you to use personal attack.

I respectful ask you to stop.

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Originally Posted by henners88

Its funny how every media outlet, millions of fans, the FIA, and several current drivers have all jumped to the same conclusion though isn't it?

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Junping to a conclusion....and without the important evidence to prove an order.

A conviction without evidence....how would you feel if it was you?

This was a obvious team order, in fact, "the teamorder".

Even my nine year old twin boys knowed that. Ofcourse, they are clever but no wunder kids.

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Originally Posted by pallone col bracciale

Junping to a conclusion....and without the important evidence to prove an order.

A conviction without evidence....how would you feel if it was you?

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when I was a young man I i used to do sales I learned one important lesson.

"there are only two kinds of people who you cannot sell to. The ignorant and those with no money"

This mantra seems to ring true on these forums, where the only kinds of people you cannot reason with are those who are ignorant or in denial.

I don't know which one you fit in, but it seems to me that you have manged to convince yourself of something that even my mother noticed watching her first F1 race ever! Asking me whether it was normal to let another driver pass you because he is your teammate and if the other guy does not want to win?

Now the LdM has confirmed that much and you are still in denial, but you sir, still think nothing untoward happened. Pointless trying to have a discussion then.

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

An Italian who thinks he's above the law? No, I've no idea what he's got to do with this thread... :p

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Well spotted! ;)

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Originally Posted by truefan72

when I was a young man I i used to do sales I learned one important lesson.

"there are only two kinds of people who you cannot sell to. The ignorant and those with no money"

This mantra seems to ring true on these forums, where the only kinds of people you cannot reason with are those who are ignorant or in denial.

I don't know which one you fit in, but it seems to me that you have manged to convince yourself of something that even my mother noticed watching her first F1 race ever! Asking me whether it was normal to let another driver pass you because he is your teammate and if the other guy does not want to win?

Now the LdM has confirmed that much and you are still in denial, but you sir, still think nothing untoward happened. Pointless trying to have a discussion then.

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3 years ago I thought that only the hardiest McLaren fans can deny what Martin and Ron themselves were saying. Now I know that some Ferrari fans aren't better either.

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

An Italian who thinks he's above the law? No, I've no idea what he's got to do with this thread... :p

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He IS above the law, like many others. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by truefan72

I don't know which one you fit in, but it seems to me that you have manged to convince yourself of something that even my mother noticed watching her first F1 race ever! Asking me whether it was normal to let another driver pass you because he is your teammate and if the other guy does not want to win?

Now the LdM has confirmed that much and you are still in denial, but you sir, still think nothing untoward happened. Pointless trying to have a discussion then.

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Luca confirmed nothing other than Ferrari drivers are expected to be team players.

And you, my firend, have convinced yourself without the important factor....proof.

Until you provide proof, you have no claim to be correct.

"Fernando is faster than you".....please explain the order and instruction in this message, as those words do not include an order or instruction.

Until you provide proof of a spoken order, then there was no team order.

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Originally Posted by henners88

Using the phrase 'jumping to the same conclusion' is poking fun at the irony of how obvious team orders were in this case. The evidence was the there for all to see.

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so prove it.

Provide the spoken word transcript where an order was given.

To be correct, you have to have this evidence.

Anything else is what a lawyer calls "supposizioni".

A Governing Body will need more than that to bring a punishment, especially one which lost a case against Briatore in a French courtroom.

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Originally Posted by pallone col bracciale

"Fernando is faster than you".....please explain the order and instruction in this message, as those words do not include an order or instruction.

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What if you quoted the whole radio transmission, not only a part of it?