I have the access to Delfi pay content but it's Martinson's writings so it's utterly irrelevant crap anyways that I haven't even bothered to take a look at itQuote:
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I have the access to Delfi pay content but it's Martinson's writings so it's utterly irrelevant crap anyways that I haven't even bothered to take a look at itQuote:
Originally Posted by Rallyest
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Originally Posted by cali
I Agree, but after Estonia Finland and now Today, it doesnt sound so crazy anymore, Hyundai has changed alot: Abiteboul, FX. things are much more stable now compared to when Tänak left.
Since Ogier dont want to do a full season its Hyundai or M-Sport for Ott
Or retirement. He has successfully managed to spit in every well so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
Nope, he clearly said he’s driving full time next yearQuote:
Originally Posted by bandit12
The burnt bridges and spit in the well is all made up by rally fans
Both Loubet and Tänak water pump issues shows that there must be also some serious unprofessional job by M-Sport mechanics. Such a shame!
Or design or supplier fault? Wasn't the first time this season wasn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
This aged quickly https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/mille...of-the-season/Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
Criticism is fine and justified, but constantly calling a team tin-pot and unprofessional is not necessary. And especially seeming to delight in any opportunity to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
They aren't doing badly on purpose and you dont know the facts of the Team staffing and financial situation. Ditto with supplied components failing.
It was once again proven that the Puma definitely has pace. But, team has to absolutely get on top of the issues and make the car work all the time. Regardless of what Tanak does at the end of the year, M Sport's target for RMC 2024 should be a reliable car that can show its speed for a whole rally. The rest will come.
Tänak to Delfi
"You can't drive this car to victory. I'm pretty sure of that. The year has proven that. The lack of pace is obvious," Tänak said and also pointed out one positive piece. "It was the first rally where the suspension worked as it should. That was some progress. Everything else is still difficult."
Even if it's all true and correct.. then why say it out loud..? It doesn't help anything.
In a way it was a very good question from the interviewer: "Can you win with this car?" and he was plain honest there which is like he is. Hard honest truth.
He won in sweden.
Regarding that: https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/m...amme/10519357/Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenneth
"We will be doing whatever we can to try and find a way to stay in at the highest level," Wilson told Motorsport.com.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
"We have a great team of people and we have still got a great car. We have had a dreadful year this year and I don't know why. I think everyone has these glitches.
:D
https://ralli.ee/ott-tanak-ja-martin...l0B2YIgVEVoOIA
Id say this could be a indication of Ott and Martin continuing in Ford, why waste time doing local rallies with nothing to catch this year in the championship, if you are going to drive another car next year.
translation:
"A few days ago it was announced that Teemu Suninen, who will be competing with a Hyundai Rally1 machine for the first time this year, will participate in the Austrian Autumn Rally in mid-October, but now the organizers have also announced the participation of Ott Tänak.
It is known that from this season, Rally1 teams have very limited test days, so competitors use local rallies for testing purposes."
Remains to be seen if they actually go there
He was also registered for the local Finnish round but withdraw in the summer
Taking into account common history for M-Sport and Tänak, I think Tänak want's to help M-Sport to build good car or help the team to do well even if he is going to leave again.
and, he still have a contract, i don't think he can decide whatever he please...if m-sport decide to run a local rally, in some extent, tanak has to do it...Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
That was a bit different. After Estonia he didn't see where they could make meaningful improvements for Finland so it made sense for him to take a little break. Now he's going to a local rally before a new WRC event which will likely not only help with getting a better set up for CER but also have firsthand experience with the type roads that will come the week after.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Even though Puma can't be driven to the top step of the podium, the work must continue to make the car better.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/rally...sports-future/
It sounds as if it's a make it or break it situation for M-Sport having sold only one Rally1 Puma since the start of last year.
Have Toyota or Huyndai sold any Rally1?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Who needs a Rally1 car?!
As much as I'd like to see Rally 1 cars more often I think that its an arms race race we dont need in National rallying certainly in the UK where there's enough hassle with R5+ and different restrictors etc. How much would a non-hybrid sell for anyway?
Malcolm says it would be cheaper if they remove they hybrid unit.
No, but they never needed to to stay in WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
I totally agree, classes are complicated enough already and costs need to be lower not even higher !Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal yet again
Another wrong decision; Rally2/ R5 cars are enough for National events; another class for rich businessman is not needed. When are people in UK rallying going to wake up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal yet again
is needed for business. a rally1 is worth like 5ish rally2... and it's easier to sell 5/10 rally1 without competition than 25/50 rally2 against skoda/toyota and the others...Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
I don't give a toss about somebody's business.....the sport is far more important in the long term.
Yes. Let's not turn it into a farce!Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
As I said in the Rally2 thread, It's been a double-whammy for M-Sport with having to spend on developing the Rally1 Puma (and then hardly selling any); and this also led to neglecting the Fiesta Rally2 and losing sales of that too.
skoda hasnt build/sell any wrc1 car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Of course. From that point of view. I see...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
1. Their Motorsport Dept are Manufacturer backedQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
2. They are able to give 100% to their Rally2
is it profitable?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
M sport can do the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
nice. but reality is sport = someone's business.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
I believe Skoda Motorsport is profitable. If i remember correctly that is (was?) a criteria from VAG for any customer motorsport program in their group.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii