Petter Solberg WRT

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Originally Posted by Iskald

I would never have thought that it should come to this, but here goes: I am writing this in support of forumer N.O.T and the principle of freedom of expression on this forum.

I have seen that you have posted "official warnings" on two diffrent threads, pino. In my opinion this is very harsh, based on your subjective interpretation that N.O.T is "negative".

On a forum like this there must be accept for satire, irony and critisism, even heavy critisism. Sometimes satire can be (falsely) interpreted as "negative", but it isn`t always the case. Freedom of expression is a most important principle, and it has nothing to do whether other discussion participants is completely disagreeing with you or not. I myself disagree (sometimes completely) with N.O.T in most of his statements and caracteristics, but I do not find them especially offensive or offending. He has a different kind of humour than most other forumers, and it may be well and truly irritating when he is repeating his old jokes, but from time to time he is actually somewhere near being a bit funny, too!

What isn`t acceptable is of course personal abuse and blatant disrespect. It may seem that N.O.T is being close to disrespectful in his caracteristics of for instance Ken Block and Kimi Raikkkönen during the last days. Many of us find this highly annoying, but in principle I will say that as public performers and persons, Block, Raikkönen and others should accept this level of satire and critisism. They are not "attacked" with personal abuse, but they are critisised for being hyped up and/or slow rally drivers. This is the personal opinion of N.O.T, like it or not, but it is actually his right to express these opinions.

It may be that I should have started a thread on Forum Feedback instead of posting here, pino, but as you are posting your official warnings on an existing thread instead of sending a PM to N.O.T, I chose to post here.

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Completely agree with Iskald. N.O.T. is the person who puts me thinking: "do I really believe what I am reading, do the writer wants me to belive what he writes, is it really true?" He is very often over sarcastic but he is very often right too.

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Originally Posted by Iskald

I would never have thought that it should come to this, but here goes: I am writing this in support of forumer N.O.T and the principle of freedom of expression on this forum.

I have seen that you have posted "official warnings" on two diffrent threads, pino. In my opinion this is very harsh, based on your subjective interpretation that N.O.T is "negative".

On a forum like this there must be accept for satire, irony and critisism, even heavy critisism. Sometimes satire can be (falsely) interpreted as "negative", but it isn`t always the case. Freedom of expression is a most important principle, and it has nothing to do whether other discussion participants is completely disagreeing with you or not. I myself disagree (sometimes completely) with N.O.T in most of his statements and caracteristics, but I do not find them especially offensive or offending. He has a different kind of humour than most other forumers, and it may be well and truly irritating when he is repeating his old jokes, but from time to time he is actually somewhere near being a bit funny, too!

What isn`t acceptable is of course personal abuse and blatant disrespect. It may seem that N.O.T is being close to disrespectful in his caracteristics of for instance Ken Block and Kimi Raikkkönen during the last days. Many of us find this highly annoying, but in principle I will say that as public performers and persons, Block, Raikkönen and others should accept this level of satire and critisism. They are not "attacked" with personal abuse, but they are critisised for being hyped up and/or slow rally drivers. This is the personal opinion of N.O.T, like it or not, but it is actually his right to express these opinions.

It may be that I should have started a thread on Forum Feedback instead of posting here, pino, but as you are posting your official warnings on an existing thread instead of sending a PM to N.O.T, I chose to post here.

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Me aggree too

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Originally Posted by Iskald

I would never have thought that it should come to this, but here goes: I am writing this in support of forumer N.O.T and the principle of freedom of expression on this forum.

I have seen that you have posted "official warnings" on two diffrent threads, pino. In my opinion this is very harsh, based on your subjective interpretation that N.O.T is "negative".

On a forum like this there must be accept for satire, irony and critisism, even heavy critisism. Sometimes satire can be (falsely) interpreted as "negative", but it isn`t always the case. Freedom of expression is a most important principle, and it has nothing to do whether other discussion participants is completely disagreeing with you or not. I myself disagree (sometimes completely) with N.O.T in most of his statements and caracteristics, but I do not find them especially offensive or offending. He has a different kind of humour than most other forumers, and it may be well and truly irritating when he is repeating his old jokes, but from time to time he is actually somewhere near being a bit funny, too!

What isn`t acceptable is of course personal abuse and blatant disrespect. It may seem that N.O.T is being close to disrespectful in his caracteristics of for instance Ken Block and Kimi Raikkkönen during the last days. Many of us find this highly annoying, but in principle I will say that as public performers and persons, Block, Raikkönen and others should accept this level of satire and critisism. They are not "attacked" with personal abuse, but they are critisised for being hyped up and/or slow rally drivers. This is the personal opinion of N.O.T, like it or not, but it is actually his right to express these opinions.

It may be that I should have started a thread on Forum Feedback instead of posting here, pino, but as you are posting your official warnings on an existing thread instead of sending a PM to N.O.T, I chose to post here.

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I disagree.

N.O.T. is an internet-troll. An internet-troll is a person who does like to irritate and more tha that other serious viewers and discussers on this forum

For me he doesn´t provide anything to this forum.

As I have written before to NOT I think he might be at womens forum with his gossip.

(Though I think NOT has a serious interest in international rallying a recommendation to him would be to calm down and comment the kind of way we could see in some of his quotes during this weekend)

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

I disagree.

N.O.T. is an internet-troll. An internet-troll is a person who does like to irritate and more tha that other serious viewers and discussers on this forum

For me he doesn´t provide anything to this forum.

As I have written before to NOT I think he might be at womens forum with his gossip.

(Though I think NOT has a serious interest in international rallying a recommendation to him would be to calm down and comment the kind of way we could see in some of his quotes during this weekend)

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I do agree with you.

Great great great performance by Petter, I wonder if he also has the same engine spec of Ogier ...

ps. The photo of NOT is present in the wikipedia section "internet troll" xD

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Originally Posted by Helstar

Great great great performance by Petter, I wonder if he also has the same engine spec of Ogier ...

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I don't know which engine Oigier have, but Petter has the old one. He will get the upgraded engine for Jordan.

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Originally Posted by Iskald

I would never have thought that it should come to this, but here goes: I am writing this in support of forumer N.O.T and the principle of freedom of expression on this forum.

I have seen that you have posted "official warnings" on two diffrent threads, pino. In my opinion this is very harsh, based on your subjective interpretation that N.O.T is "negative".

On a forum like this there must be accept for satire, irony and critisism, even heavy critisism. Sometimes satire can be (falsely) interpreted as "negative", but it isn`t always the case. Freedom of expression is a most important principle, and it has nothing to do whether other discussion participants is completely disagreeing with you or not. I myself disagree (sometimes completely) with N.O.T in most of his statements and caracteristics, but I do not find them especially offensive or offending. He has a different kind of humour than most other forumers, and it may be well and truly irritating when he is repeating his old jokes, but from time to time he is actually somewhere near being a bit funny, too!

What isn`t acceptable is of course personal abuse and blatant disrespect. It may seem that N.O.T is being close to disrespectful in his caracteristics of for instance Ken Block and Kimi Raikkkönen during the last days. Many of us find this highly annoying, but in principle I will say that as public performers and persons, Block, Raikkönen and others should accept this level of satire and critisism. They are not "attacked" with personal abuse, but they are critisised for being hyped up and/or slow rally drivers. This is the personal opinion of N.O.T, like it or not, but it is actually his right to express these opinions.

It may be that I should have started a thread on Forum Feedback instead of posting here, pino, but as you are posting your official warnings on an existing thread instead of sending a PM to N.O.T, I chose to post here.

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Agree, Sometimes N.O.T on the limit with his style, but at least he understand this sport and this is more important. Hopfully we will se him soon again here

I also agree with Iskald. Don't get the (internet)life too seriously, folks ;)

I can see Petter really did lose weight, it seem his face looks gaunter than before.

congratulations Petter on the result,maybe he should get more thought from the works teams,as a tryer.And how many privateers can come 2nd in a WRC event.?