The Ferrari thread !

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Originally Posted by Shalafi

At least he WAS best on his day.. still not sure that accident havent effect his ability....

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Massa's issue I believe is a confidence thing - it's in the mind.

HE has grown in confidence, and being able to beat Kimi on occasion he grew as a driver.

The accident knocked that confidence, and when he finally shows signs of regaining the confidence, his team stamp on it. :down:

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Originally Posted by pino

Great job so far, now let's not spoil everything in the race with wrong strategy and poor performance by drivers :s

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Can you see into the future Pino? Clearly you can!!! ;)

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

The accident knocked that confidence, and when he finally shows signs of regaining the confidence, his team stamp on it. :down:

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In the words of the infamous Gene Hunt: "Anything happens to this motor, I'll come 'round your houses and stamp on all your toys. Got it?" :p :

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

In the words of the infamous Gene Hunt: "Anything happens to this motor, I'll come 'round your houses and stamp on all your toys. Got it?" :p :

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How topical - currently on series 2 of LOM. Very good it is too.

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Originally Posted by henners88

You can believe what you want, but I don't consider myself to be that naive and with the post race interviews with Felipe confirming our suspicions, I'll leave it at that. :)

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Felipes post race comments confirmed nothing, except that he had taken the decision.

You have no proof. There was no order.

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Originally Posted by pallone col bracciale

Felipes post race comments confirmed nothing, except that he had taken the decision.

You have no proof. There was no order.

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Luca gave the proof today, it was team orders and he doesn't care what others think about it.

What else are you going to deny now?!

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Originally Posted by ioan

Luca gave the proof today, it was team orders and he doesn't care what others think about it.

What else are you going to deny now?!

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watch, it will switch from denial to full on support of LdM and that it was always correct, etc, etc,

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Originally Posted by pallone col bracciale

Felipes post race comments confirmed nothing, except that he had taken the decision.

You have no proof. There was no order.

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:rotflmao:

Oh how much fun the docs would have with you.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Luca gave the proof today, it was team orders and he doesn't care what others think about it.

What else are you going to deny now?!

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Please show the proof that Luca confirms that team orders were given.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85587

He does not expressly state anywhere that Ferrari have used team orders in Germany.

So, where is your proof?

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Originally Posted by pallone col bracciale

Please show the proof that Luca confirms that team orders were given.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85587

He does not expressly state anywhere that Ferrari have used team orders in Germany.

So, where is your proof?

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I appreciate that English may not be your first language so I will translate into clearer words.

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"I simply reaffirm what I have always maintained, which is that our drivers are very well aware, and it is something they have to stick to, that if one races for Ferrari, then the interests of the team come before those of the individual.

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They are racing under the teams direction and not their own

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"In any case, these things have happened since the days of Nuvolari and I experienced it myself when I was Sporting Director, in the days of Niki Lauda and not just then."

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This is in response to the subject of team orders.

So, big white chief comes out and confirms the drivers race for the team, not themselves and it's always been the same.

I am sure the hard of understanding will quite happily claim he hasn't come out and said "Massa was ordered to move over" but if you are the sort interested in Polemics rather than debate, then I am wasting my time trying to communicate with you.