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attendance up....Quote:
Originally Posted by -Helix-
come on d get serios
the last three races have seen
A. an announced sellout and capicity crowd that was clearly 1/2 full at best....how CC
B. the stands at Sanoma speak for themselves
C. Belle Isle... where thay had just over 24k seats erected that were .... well lets just say not full
Nothing more than PR.Quote:
Originally Posted by indycool
To do that, Tony would have to keep subsidizing cars. Why would he do that? There is no competition any more.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Helix-
I would expect the norm will be 24 cars.
I guess we will see.
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Originally Posted by indycool
I found this quote interesting.
Why did he call it a TV buy? It's supposed to be a paid contract from Versus isn't it? Maybe he misspoke or phrased it badly, but calling it a TV buy gives the connotation that the IRL is buying TV time.Quote:
The new TV deal has lengthened negotiations, Brown said. “Since the TV buy figures into the deal and we’re not dealing with what we were dealing with six months ago, it’s required us to step back and do a re-presentation.”
interesting note about the "TV buy" - one of those things that makes you go "hmmmm" - perhaps for no good reason - but....
as far as car count - I think the Detroit count of 25 is more like what we will be seeing for the foreseeable future..... Honestly , a healthy 22 is fine by me - we need to be well clear of 18 but we do not need to be ending cars home right yet.....
Knowing how those negotiations go, and "activation money" being negotiated back into them, I can understand what Brown is talking about and it's not a TV time buy. Since Brown is an agency, with more TV time on a different network in a different deal involved, there is probably a commission involved in "taking" a potential sponsor to the network as part of the deal for "X" TV advertising in addition to other parts of a potential deal.
That ain't new. For NASCAR (or maybe CART started it because it was done by CART in the mid '80s), sometimes the race sponsor will be ID'd by the announcers and graphics as the race sponsor, i.e., the XYZ 300. If the race sponsor isn't on board with "activation," (read that $), it's the Phoenix 300 or the Milwaukee 300.
The number of cars isn't important compared to the audience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter
MotoGP has had 18 entries at a significant number of races, and at Brno the amount of spectators on race day was 140000 people.
IMO the amount of progress made during the first season of the combined AOWR series has been less than I expected.
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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel
I would agree - I am not all doom and gloom about the future - but I expected a little more forward progress from this season....
That being said - the first season of unification was far from a failure...
The message is that I EXPECT more from the unified series in the next season or two (not that anyone really cares what I expect :D )
I got spoiled by 28 screaming cars with about 25,000 HP blasting into T1, carrying a big wind with them. The smell of burning brakes. Having it take more than five seconds for the whole field to file past on the at the first turn of the first lap. Good times!Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter
If the sport is going to come back and have the resources to put on a show which would be of interest to those of us in it for the technology, they are going to need to do better than 24, with six paid for by Tony.
I'd like something which would make me want to watch it. Even be excited to watch it. I want the thrill to come back.
If CCWS had 24 cars last year, and they were all the same car, I might have felt hope for the future, but it still would have been a spec car series to me. Maybe that was CCWS's downfall. They introduced a new spec car with great fanfare, and the gearheads which flocked to CART races said 'Meh'.