sounds like a small piece of the big pictureQuote:
Originally Posted by -Helix-
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sounds like a small piece of the big pictureQuote:
Originally Posted by -Helix-
Which direction is that? The increased car counts? the increased popularity? the added schedule diversity? the promising new TV contract where we won't be treated like second class citizens anymore?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken
Yeah, I'm pretty pissed at the potential and bright future AOWR has too. :rolleyes:
A small piece? You can't get a much bigger picture of an AOWR series. The Indy 500 IS AOWR. CART lost it and failed. The IRL has it and thus has the potential to actually survive and prosper much like the last time we had one single series that ran the Indy 500.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken
well where to start.... I'll go with the question I've asked that has yet to be answered in another thread...Quote:
Originally Posted by -Helix-
with the IRL adding rights at an 8-1 pace over the past 3 seasons....and with the IRL chosing to not add ready viable ready to run ovals with promotors inplace.... and with numerous street coarse looking to get on the schedule in coming years...
what makes you confident we won't see the schedule evolve further from ovalcentricity than it already is?
a conundrum that plaqued CC over it's last 1/2 decade and led to it's ultimate demise
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Originally Posted by -Helix-
read the boards.... i'm not telling how YOU how YOU should feel...
but make no mistake your in the increasing minority
increased popularity=9 of the first 16 races down in TV ratingsQuote:
Originally Posted by -Helix-
huh?
promising TV contract?
that seriosly remains to be seen....
cable ratings for AOWR racing have averaged below 1.0 for four seasons......that's test pattern range..
yes as an established fan we will get improved extended coverage.... but there is ZERO evidence that VS is going to create better ratings, improved ROI for sponsors and created more funding for teams
AOWR (and oval racing) at it's very early roots were manufacturers entering 500 mile endurance races (and hill climbs) to prove the reliability of their product to the early motoring public.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris R
American sports car racing, which came later, is rooted in the rich playing with their toys on road coarses.
If I could weigh in bit...I think 2011 is a good date for a new car. The merger just happened and trying to force feed a new car through (unless people are willing to go with a DP-01, and that's not going to happen) in a year when the new teams are just getting aclimated to the Dalleras would be a disaster. Better to stay with the current timetable of 2011, where everyone can be on the same clean sheet of paper starting out.
I think some people underestimate the patience of the fans. Sure there will always be diehards, but I think most understand what is going on in open wheel and are willing to wait it out. Even going on VS could be a silver lining, given enough time to work some things out. That can be said for the series as a whole. Can't rush this stuff.
It's called marketing. You really think the quality of the on-track product can be judged by looking at the tv ratings? What world are you living in? It's a catch 22, you need ratings to get the sponsors to get the marketing. I do not think the IRL is going to be getting better ratings on VS, but who knows by 2011? If VS markets their product and has longer airtimes, then perhaps the series can grow. No guarantees, but I think everyone would agree that it got lost on the various ESPN channels and certainly did not get much promotion there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken