C3 R5 livery for Var:
https://scontent.fbud4-1.fna.fbcdn.n...ac&oe=5A69CD08
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C3 R5 livery for Var:
https://scontent.fbud4-1.fna.fbcdn.n...ac&oe=5A69CD08
Can I reserve one back seat? :D
Regarding the engine for Toyota. I thought even Skoda used quite different engine (like 1,8 TSI for chinese market only, or something like that because I donīt remember well...EDIT: I am right:"They chose the 1.8-liter, 123 kW EA 888 engine, produced in Shanghai, China" ) as base engine for R5. ...Donīt tell me Toyota doesnīt have anything like that anywhere in the world.
They don't. Toyota doesn't produce any turbocharged engines in the suitable volume range 1.6-2.0 except one which is special engine operating in Atkinson't cycle, i.e. it is suitable as a range extender for hybrid cars but not as a base for racing engine because Atkinson's cycle sacrifices power per volume for fuel efficiency.
EA888 is codename for all recent 1.8TSI engines (whole family is designed by Audi). Chinese variants are somewhat modified compared to European ones but it's not different engine, just a modification of the same one as in Europe.
Easier to push in winter because rear glass is heated ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
My guess Toyota in their conservative way are testing the waters with the Gazoo Yaris - 1.8 litre supercharged engine. 400 editions to seed the market for a hot hatch yaris road car.
The body is changing? for the 2019 Yaris so there is little point of doing R5 for one year of the current yaris?
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/t...ct-119275.html
So perhaps bigger volume of new model supercharged Yaris in 2019 and sprinkle them between Asia and Europe, then consider R5 model?
NZ AP4 1600cc Yaris runs 2ZR engine destroked from 1.8 litres. Australian AP4 runs 2zz-ge engine.
R5 VW Polo coming along just in time to torpedo the new C3 R5... poor old Citroen. ;)
So are there any changes to R5 rules in 2018 or not?
I know paddle shift was cancelled but I haven’t seen FIA say anything else.
Thanks, so current rules were confirmed for another two seasons?
No bigger restrictor then either..
Sorry if I missed this info if its already been given, but is there any news on the Mk8 Fiesta R5 ?
Later in 2018
2nd day of Polo R5 test in France and no pics?
Bonato Test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCJdxs3bPe0
Front strut in Fabia R5/i20 R5/asphalt C3 WRC way.
new video with c3 r5,but its playing way fast. Really cant understand this trend....
https://youtu.be/KmmQh5fQvb8
Video C3 R5 from Checkpoint Rallye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKv_...em-uploademail
At least it looks good, it is for some reason cleaner looking than the WRCar sister.
speedwise hard to tell, but the C3 challenge has not been on asfalt!!
The put-put-put under braking on the Citroen sounds a bit silly, but overall it looks more convincing than the previous generation PSA R5s.
It is a second generation R5 car. Bad if not better ;)
Numerous joker updates on the first generation cars seemed to make sod all difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
I think that they still have relative disadvantage in used stock base engine even though it went through a lot of changes since the time DS3 was developed. I mean that they are still the only ones using stock 1.6 engine as a basis and therefore near stock bore/stroke ratio which is a lot different than in other cars (they have smaller bore and larger stroke).
Yeah, engine still doesn’t look that strong from videos so far although power delivery looks less weird than on the old car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Sounds awful... especially compared to the old DS3 R5 which sounded fabulous.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Looks good though.
Does this make sense: http://www.carmag.co.za/technical_po...s-shortstroke/
So for rally the longstroke gives a bit more torque in low revs, is that the main advantage?
in the two litre era they used to be square did they not?
I thought the modern turbos compensated for this.
I am not engine engineer but if I remember the main issue with such small bore engines is that the piston is so small that there is not enough space for larger valves. For sure there is a reason why purpose-built WRC engines have large bore and short stroke - Polo WRC bore/stroke ratio 1,125; Fiesta WRC 1,123; C3 WRC 1,167. Now compare with same size R5 units. Fabia R5 1,088 (based on 1.8 stock engine with shortened stroke); Fiesta R5 1,192 (based on 2.0 stock engine with shortened stroke); C3 R5 0,897 (based on stock 1.6 engine).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
I am curious how will be a VW rally car without Ogier hands
Škoda without Ogier always doing fine, so I'm calm about it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
which i20 Hyundai has the 4b11 from Evo X?
https://rallysportmag.com/details-em...roton-iriz-r5/
The 2.0T/2.4T engines of Mitsubishi, Hyundai and Chrysler/Dodge were really developed as a joint venture. At least the engine block of Mitsubishi 4B11 and Hyundai Theta II is same. The block itself was even designed by Hyundai. Therefore if Hyundai used Theta II with shorter stroke as a base engine for R5 it's the case mentioned in the article.
Besides, again it seems likely the VW will share a lot with the Skoda and now they borrowed one of their drivers too.Quote:
Originally Posted by electroliquid
First impressions from VW test driver Dieter Depping:
https://www.fiaerc.com/new-polo-r5-i...river-depping/
An other question.
Are there any drivers ho have plans to compete whit the Opel R5 car? Or has it not been homologated yet?
Would be a nice adition to the other R5 cars.
And isn't there a Mitsu R5 somewhere also? And what about the proton?
Wich R5 cars have ever been build so far?
It's not homologated and the question is whether it will ever be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duvel
Mitsubishi is not homologated. It's running in some national events under national homologation and in APRC under regional homologation though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duvel
Not yet homologated either but it's likely going to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duvel
Internationally homologated to date: Peugeot 208 T16 R5, Citroën DS3 R5, Ford Fiesta R5, Škoda Fabia R5, Hyndai i20 R5.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duvel
MItsubishi R5 even non homologated found it's place in Sweden, Finland, UK. Is there possibility that Opel R5 might be used in DE, or other countries? Is there class to run non homologated R5 spec car? And are in middle Europe some hardcore Opel rally drivers, who could be very interested in it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
More news on the Proton: https://rallysportmag.com/details-em...roton-iriz-r5/
edit: already mentioned by dimvii