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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
'We are also in dialogue with external sponsors who may help to finance this (2017 Polo) with our own funds, although we probably can not add "gold ions" of sums of this year, says the manager.'
There is a trophy! They have one. Serderidis, whom I respect, was there alone in Monte. I would complain with the privateers who asked this trophy for years and now that they have it they're not participating at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Prokop retired 8-9 times from WRC, saying that he wanted a privateer trophy and now he's buying a new car. But it's ok, he's free to do it but I hope he will not complain anymore.
He will.
I really wonder why Ostberg & Prokop are so keen to have 2017 cars when they still wont be WRC competitive...
I wonder why do You think they shall prefer to drive outdated cars with which they neither have a chance nor get any attention?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Prokop is not a gentleman driver. He is very smart! Goes with speed that allow finish and save material. If he have money to do what all of us wanted too, why not? I am fan of he and of guys like Mads and Henning... only one can win.
for the same same reason they wanted to drive WRC cars the years before...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Also in the article:Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Toyota and Citroen will also pay close attention to Andreas Mikkelsen this year ............
Armin Kremer has stopped his WRC2 programme. Instead, he concentrates on supporting Marijan Griebel in ERC.
What attention will they get in '17 cars ? If this forum is anything to go by, just ridicule...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
i do not think that they care what a forum thinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
99% of rally fans and motorsport are worthless plebs who just want to see fast cars and they do not go deep into anything, you can see it here in the forum as well 99% are ok with everything and i am the lone white knight trying to open your eyes to the truth. But a pleb will always be a pleb.
So the one remaining percent are cocks? Is this what you are in?
Rally Finland (@RallyFinland) tweeted at 2:15 PM on Tue, Jan 31, 2017:
Finnish ASN AKK-Motorsport has granted a special permission for @KalleRovanpera to compete in Finland!
location: wales.... LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by markpcym
You better believe it..Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
A bit different situation though. Kremer won his ERC title before any of the privateers that people want to "pay for Mikkelsen" even started driving (With the exception of Prokop, who started in 01).Quote:
Originally Posted by JUF
Just to clarify: I think its fine for privateers to drive '17 cars - they can do what they want with their money and more new WRC's are good to watch for the fans.
If they enjoy driving them thats fine, but they cant expect big praise or coverage when they finish behind all the factory drivers every rally.
That's what the WRC Trophy was intended for and would've given them something to really compete for between themselves.
The Trophy was created because they didn't know what else to do with the old 2016 cars. It will be over after a year or two without any interest just like the R-GT challenge before.
Yeah exactly, it was a compromise. It could have been good for 2017 if there had not been enough new cars available but I don't see it being a thing in 2018, maybe not even this year. As a concept i think it wasn't bad, to have something for privateers in the transitional year, but if the privateers already have 2017 cars it's kind of useless...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
It's a bit of a waste, I feel if the FIA had promoted it as an idea sooner, it would have been well suited to targeting rich nobodies who want to drive a WRC car and have a chance to get themselves a trophy in the process. Would have suited Citroen and MSport too, as keeps some money coming in for them.
With only a few seconds thinking of potential customers, I can think of a few people who it would suit well... Paulo Nobre, Bertelli, the various Arabian businessmen (except Nasser perhaps), Ken Block, the list goes on. Definitely a lost opportunity! Although you would have to run them behind the WRC2 cars to make sure their accidents didn't slow too many people down! And maybe the results would have to be on a separate table, so that you can't see on TV that they get beaten by R3 cars.
Only TV mentions they typically get are when they crash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Driving power stage live on TV, having better starting number, better service place, driving in front of a larger crowd, crossing the start ramp among the top crews and we can go on.
Try to understand that there is simply no advantage in driving some useless and invisible trophy nobody cares about.
Vanity in other words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
It's human nature. Would you drive Formula Ford, if you've got money for a F1 drive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
No, simple logic. It's not like the trophy is for free. The whole thing costs enormous money and it's perfectly logical to want the best possible service for what You pay instead of virtually throwing them out of the window. Of course human nature is another very important factor. Why shall anyone prefer not to take part in the very best league (when he can) is beyond me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I notice amongst all the reasons you listed (for having a 2017 WRC) there is no mention of:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
1. Competing against the best WRC drivers in the world
2. To try to set fastest time on a WRC rally stage
3. To try to win a WRC rally
I would have time for your argument if you had... but you know as well as I do that these privateers have no chance of doing any of them.
"This is a very big challenge for me and for the team," Ostberg told Autosport.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
"If it all works, we should get some time with the car this weekend,
but that's not going to give me anything like the kind of experience the others have had with these cars in the last six months."
He wants to be in a 2017 car but Mads getting his excuses ready early.
So Mads is not allowed having explicit excuses like other drivers had in the past and many of you guys find relevant regarding your own homedrivers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
of course he is allowed,as we are to discuss here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
hint. with 2017 cars will be slower than 2016 car.
You're allowed to, but how dumb do you want to look though? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
I really don't care what fanboys think about me.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
And Your point is? I don't see any reason to continue useless discussion about how stupid they are when they want to drive what they want to drive. Sorry but that's childish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Ogier drove Fiesta for couple of days and won Monte Carlo. How difficult can it be?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
However others were faster. And he drove it, yes. More than a couple of times and of course you know how many kmīs? Discussion unnecessary bcs Mads car is built on today. So guess how many kmīs behind wheel that permits?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Anyone know how many tests Mads did in the 2017 car before Christmas? I think at least one? I seem to remember he was due to test another time but the car blew an engine? Maybe I remembered incorrectly?
No I don't know how many kms. That doesn't matter anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
The point is we should not bother of Ostberg "difficulties" and only make sarcastic/ironic comments on them. For once and for all, he knows where he is, and we all know where he is, and this is really not necessary to focus on.
was it not 12 days?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
So what even if he did? He can become the driver he is for that time or what?Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi