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And Motorsport Italia doing the testing......... Hmmm. At least Sarrazin is a bonus, along with Lindholm.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Vw to run their 2015 Polo towards the end of this year, to get a head start on the next..
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113013
How can they run paddle shift, seeing how much fuss there was about Kubica's system?
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Originally Posted by Allyc85
In the face of current regulations - they can't.
It must be a mistake by the writer, maybe VW is re-designing their gearshift lever to something like in P208 R2 which is quite close to paddle shift even it is a sequential...
Or perhaps manufacteurs know something we dont.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
On Rally Emotion there's more news about today's Toyota tests: http://www.rallyemotion.it/8886_wrc-...-debutto-gara/
Seems that also Kubica has been walked away from test road and an helicopter flew over the road, but the team completely covered the service area...
It's kind of a spy-story! :D
Akio Toyoda, Toyota Motors' president, wants to hear messages that fans want Toyota to challenge the WRC again. Let's sign the petition!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/f...-toyota-in-wrc
So, it indeed appears that VW is pushing for paddle shift to be allowed for 2015. They have marketing interests at stake due to DSG gearboxes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
Not a good idea in my opinion, costs will rise again and 1,6L WRCs lose one of their key "idea", the sequ-gearbox...
On the other hand even "cheap" R3 cars are allowed to have paddles (not hydraulic though). Pneumatic ones are used in DS3 R3 and were homologated also for Civic R3 but they are not used there for reliability reasons (JAS guy told me once on Barum).Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
Have costs come down for paddle shifters from when they were banned? Or are paddles simply inherently expensive to build and maintain?
Paddle is just a piece of plastic or aluminium. That costs nothing :) Depends what is operated by the paddle. There are plenty of different systems used in road, rally or racing cars operated by paddles. What was expensive on the old WRC cars was the complicated hydraulic system which operated both gearbox and central active differential.
I know its a little bit difficult but can you expalin me a little bit the differences between the two systems .the gear time change differs among the two systems?if not then the only reason to use the hydraulic is its reliability compared to pneumatic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Frankly I have no idea how fast the pneumatic system can be compared to hydraulic one. Anyway with new WRC cars we speak about different stuff than with the old ones. There is no central differential and the hydraulics/pneumatics would be used only for gear change which shall be quite simple system. I don't think it would raise the cost significantly but maybe I'm wrong.
The gearboxes used these days must be some of the most reliable they've ever used, can't remember any big problems apart from the Fiesta gearbox cracking on launch a few times. So why go back to the expensive system again...
Thanks Mirek. :) I would also imagine that the system would be somewhat less expensive without the need to account for the active central diff, but we can't say for sure. It's seems that even the simplified S200-derived WRC cars are not significantly less expensive than the complex WRC cars from before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I agree. I haven't heard of a gearbox failure in quite a while, so someone must be doing something right. The only recent failures that I could recall of are alternator problems (seems to be a running theme with the M-Sport Fords) and Hyundai's soft suspension bits (which are partly the problem of the rocks the Hyundai drivers run over).Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
I recall watching the "Engineering the World Rally" miniseries that followed Subaru's 2006 WRC effort. It was perhaps the worst advertisement for Prodrive's engineering expertise. One of their more notable foibles was when their expensive gearboxes managed to fail multiple times in a single rally.
According to M-Sport Fiesta WRC gearbox needs a rebuild every 400 km so it's not so reliable as one might think (in S2000 it is 1000-2000 km). Anyway in my opinion the gearbox can stay almost same with only the gear shifting mechanism being replaced. I don't think this would be some big deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Yes, but the lifespan of the gearbox doesn't necessarily tell you how reliable it is. It simply indicates that the gearbox can run xxx kilometers before it needs to be overhauled. An unreliable gearbox would be one that can fail at any moment in a rally regardless of its lifespan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
That said, 400 km is a ridiculously short lifespan for a gearbox. Essentially, the teams have to rebuild a car's gearbox after every rally. No wonder WRC cars remain so expensive to build and maintain.
I’m not an expert but I believe not so many components would be needed for a paddle shift system. The WRC cars already have a hydraulic or pneumatic system for the handbrake. As I see it the system need a hydraulic or pneumatic cylinder connected to the existing hydraulic or pneumatic system. The cylinder’s piston & rod would do the job what the manual gear shift lever does today. The paddle switch connect the current to one of the cylinder’s solenoid.
This is a simplified explanation but that’s because I don’t know more.:D
Electro
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Hydraulic
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/i...ps0210a1a1.jpg
The pneumatic version in DS3 R3T has incredible power, I don't remember the actual pressure but the force was impressive!
F*uck, i hate paddle shift. I drove a Polo of this year with 5 speed manual, can they use on WRC? ;)
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Good choice because that wasn't logical at all what happened in Mexico.
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/march...7--12-12-.html
SAINZ LEAVES VW
AFTER DAKAR DEAL
EVGENY NOVIKOV IS SET TO MAKE A ONE-OFF RETURN TO THE WRC AT RALLY FINLAND.
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/april...8--12-12-.html
http://cs616422.vk.me/v616422945/952a/gouvdc7z718.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
lol almost the same damage!!! hope better this year if he manage to run.
Nice to se Evgeny back again, if only for one round. Hope there will be some more in the future.
Has Novikov been drove now nothing? It's not so simple job just jump in WRC again. Tests of course help, but in race conditions... possible mistakes will come more...
RK is getting more and more embarrassing with every additional accident he causes ... the change from WRC2 to WRC obviously came too soon. It´s a shame, but it looks like there´s only one way for him to go - quit rallying at least on international level ...
Maybe you should quit your job too?
it is called a job when you are getting paid...
and if someone is that bad at his job then he should quit...
Kubica is nice to watch, but his place is in ladycup competitions. At first he was crashing while he was somewhat fast.... now he crashes without the speed as well, for the moment he is just a crash highlight and none cares but crashes do not always have happy endings so he should stop.
Without the speed? What times are you watching?
well summed up !Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Well, looks like you guys are easy to give up. He is not like you, he didn't give up in 2011 and he won't give up now.
You probably would advice Colin McRae, Latvala and a bunch of other drivers to give up after their first season, it just shows how good rally "experts" you are.
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it would be good if you also give up barking at everybody who doesnt like him
I don't have anything against not liking him, I just don't like your not really sensible approach. Look at McRae result table, half of his starts is marked "ret", would you advise him to quit?
wake up or change sport...
Mcrae was winning rallies when he was not crashing... Same as Latvala...
wake up.
Wake up. In first WRC seasons? Wake up.