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19th August 2011, 17:23
GigiGalliNo1

Ok NOT :)
19th August 2011, 17:24
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by r199

And what about Abbring for VW now 3rd overall in the france gravel championschip in a front wheel drive car beating alot of 4wd, and weijs is just as fast

please bare in mind that VW has as a goal to win rallies and championships not to waste money or hire 5 year plan miracle boys....so please use these facts before popping the first name that comes to your head....

No1 driver should be someone who is a proved winner...No2 someone who has the potential to win in 2 years and maybe then 1-2 cars to drivers who need to prove a lot of things before advancing.
19th August 2011, 17:25
T.Maanteiden kuningas

Hirvonen is driving well if there is still damage in his car.
19th August 2011, 17:25
Gregor-y

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

the question remains...are they allowed to fix internal engine block things without a penalty ??

I don't know, but there's no guarantee that's the problem, is there? 'Engine' and 'cylinder' could mean just about anything. 'Spun bearing,' 'detonation' or 'no spark' would be more specific, but I don't think we've heard anything this definite.
19th August 2011, 17:26
r199

loeb is the only proved winner richt now, so think next year he should drive for Citroen Ford Vw and Mini, so thay all have a chance to become world champion
19th August 2011, 17:27
alleskids

is Hanninen out?

edit: his time after splits he shoed be 19th :(
edit 2: Hanninen has 13.44 on splits, Weijs 13.42 and Riedeman 14.00. but in eWRC standings Riedeman has also 13.42. which is the right standing?
19th August 2011, 17:27
N.O.T

Loeb building on a lead... Ogier i think should accept his fate or take risks and jeopardise the second palce in this years championship.
19th August 2011, 17:29
r199

no Alleskids, 2 seconden achter hans op ss5
19th August 2011, 17:29
xavier

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

another interesting fact is that last year moseland stage was exactly the same as this year...

2010 time 12:06 LOEB
2011 time 12:15 LOEB

so all these guys who say that this years wrc are equal faster crawl back to your caves....

9 secs in 19 kms...0.5 slower/km after 7 events mind you....

Next year they are going to be equal which is good.

2010 2nd pass: Sordo:12:01.3, Loeb: 12:02.0
2011 2nd pass: Loeb: 12:01.9

I don't remember if there were rain last year, but this morning, I suspect it was humid.
19th August 2011, 17:29
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by alleskids

is Hanninen out?

he finished stage 5 5 seconds slower than Tanak and 2 behind Wiesj
19th August 2011, 17:31
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by xavier

2010 2nd pass: Sordo:12:01.3, Loeb: 12:02.0
2011 2nd pass: Loeb: 12:01.9

OGIER S. / INGRASSIA J. "Not so bad. But I missed junction and lost time." ;)
19th August 2011, 17:31
Juha_Koo

JML swearing a little during interview, very rare. Well, also laughing too, I bet he is totally fed up with all this sh*t.
19th August 2011, 17:32
T.Maanteiden kuningas

If there is internal engine failure, that will easily destroy whole engine...let´s hope that problem is "small" thing.
19th August 2011, 17:32
Tom206wrc

6'10 is the gap between Loeb and Latvala after leg one...can you imagine ??? ;(
19th August 2011, 17:33
logic

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

16 seconds now the difference between Hanninen and Tanak.

Weisj prooves he was a good choice for a VW skoda...lets hope the support continues.

The clear choice for VW would be Juho Hanninen (sp)
As a No2 i would go with solberg
19th August 2011, 17:33
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by xavier

2010 2nd pass: Sordo:12:01.3, Loeb: 12:02.0
2011 2nd pass: Loeb: 12:01.9

I don't remember if there were rain last year, but this morning, I suspect it was humid.

quote from 2010

LOEB S. / ELENA D. "Good day. Little mistake in this stage, I went off on juction a stalled engine little."

so i guess the difference would be about the same as 1st pass...
19th August 2011, 17:34
T.Maanteiden kuningas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juha_Koo

JML swearing a little during interview, very rare. Well, also laughing too, I bet he is totally fed up with all this sh*t.

Gronholm complaining about 307. - YouTube
19th August 2011, 17:39
Tom206wrc

What battle between Solberg H and Räikkönen :p :
19th August 2011, 17:41
Mintexmemory

Quote:

Originally Posted by xavier

2010 2nd pass: Sordo:12:01.3, Loeb: 12:02.0
2011 2nd pass: Loeb: 12:01.9

I don't remember if there were rain last year, but this morning, I suspect it was humid.

Dry as a bone and very hot last year, I got sunburned on the terraces above Piesport :cool:
19th August 2011, 17:42
garais22

Where is Kaur?
19th August 2011, 17:42
Tom206wrc

Where's Meeke on SS6 :confused:
19th August 2011, 17:45
Mintexmemory

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Originally Posted by Tom206wrc

6'10 is the gap between Loeb and Latvala after leg one...can you imagine ??? ;(

Sorry, your point is? The superiority of adequately funded French Engineering over under-funded, badly managed British Engineering is clear for all to see. But as to the relative merits of JML and Big Frog.. well I suspect he would be a tougher opponent than Ogier in a Factory DS3
19th August 2011, 17:48
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mintexmemory

Sorry, your point is? The superiority of adequately funded French Engineering over under-funded, badly managed British Engineering is clear for all to see. But as to the relative merits of JML and Big Frog.. well I suspect he would be a tougher opponent than Ogier in a Factory DS3

i think the hundred years war played tricks on you.....not everything people say have a nationalistic touch to them.
19th August 2011, 17:49
N.O.T

the battle of meeke and solberg is going to be interesting tommorow
19th August 2011, 17:52
Tom206wrc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mintexmemory

Sorry, your point is? The superiority of adequately funded French Engineering over under-funded, badly managed British Engineering is clear for all to see. But as to the relative merits of JML and Big Frog.. well I suspect he would be a tougher opponent than Ogier in a Factory DS3

I was only underlining how unlucky JML was...nothing to do with chauvinism :rolleyes:
19th August 2011, 17:54
ZequeArgentina

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Originally Posted by Tom206wrc

What battle between Solberg H and Räikkönen :p :

And Kuipers also!
19th August 2011, 17:54
focus206

Kuipers is faster than I thought... at least in Germany.
19th August 2011, 17:54
Tom206wrc

Burkart stopped on stage(only first split) :confused:
19th August 2011, 17:58
r199

second split for Burkart, lost more than 12 minutes
19th August 2011, 17:59
Mintexmemory

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom206wrc

I was only underlining how unlucky JML was...nothing to do with chauvinism :rolleyes:

My apologies for the way in which my post was interpreted, I didn't think you were being chauvanistic I just didn't get what it was that I was supposed to imagine.
There is a saying that all top competitors make their own luck, I agree with you, I don't think there's anything JML can do in the current situation to improve his - and VW is still a long way off!
19th August 2011, 18:02
Tom206wrc

Crugnola best time in SS5 almost 3 minutes ahead of Loeb !!! The Fiesta R2 works infinetely better than the Fiesta WRC :D
19th August 2011, 18:04
Mirek

Juho broke wheel :(
19th August 2011, 18:05
Miika

What a glorious day, ffs.
19th August 2011, 18:05
jonas_mcrae

I dont see Meeke after SS5, anyone knows what happened?
19th August 2011, 18:07
Mintexmemory

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Originally Posted by Miika

What a glorious day, ffs.

Now you know what it feels like to be a British Rally fan!!! ;-)
19th August 2011, 18:07
Tom206wrc

By the way: I don't understand why Al Attiyah is running a Ford Fiesta whereas he seems to be tightly linked to VW ??? :confused:
19th August 2011, 18:07
bluuford

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirek

Juho broke wheel :(

Oh nooo... is he able to reach the finish? It was very nice battle today so far!
19th August 2011, 18:08
Mirek

And Gassner same as Juho...
19th August 2011, 18:08
Mintexmemory

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Originally Posted by jonas_mcrae

I dont see Meeke after SS5, anyone knows what happened?

Same time as Sordo, timing gone to pot, so still ahead of Petter and now with better road conditions on first run
19th August 2011, 18:09
r199

@ Tom,

Nasser is gone bye VW couse thay stoped the Dakar,

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