Osama Bin Laden Is Dead

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

1. An ability to make a point cannot be 'vacuous'. One would never say that somebody has a 'vacuous ability' to make a point. A lack of ability, or similar, perhaps, but there is no such phrase as 'vacuous ability'.

2. '...cannot defend you seeming rhetoric'? Pardon?

If you are to criticize the ability of others in making points, at least do so in a way that makes proper grammatical sense.

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a·bil·i·ty
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–noun, plural -ties.
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POWER TO DO OR ACT physically, mentally, legally, morally, financially, etc.
2.
competence in an activity or occupation because of one's skill, training, or other qualification: the ability to sing well.
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abilities, talents; special skills or aptitudes: Composing music is beyond his abilities.

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vac·u·ous
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without contents; empty: the vacuous air.
2.
lacking in ideas or intelligence: a vacuous mind.
3.
EXPRESSING OR CHARACTERIZED BY A LACK OF IDEAS or intelligence; inane; stupid: a vacuous book.
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You SIR are wrong.

Better wording-- his ability is vacuous.

I do not proof read and one of my computers be without a automatical typo system.

There is no s in criticize, so I fixed it in my quoting your response.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Defending its citizens, and those who are our allies.

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You want to defend your citizens allocate more police forces in gang infested cities such as Oakland,New Orleans,Detroit etc. Get real man.

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Originally Posted by JackSparrow

And Americans are the epitome of society? A country where KuKluxKlan is protected by police while they're demonstrating hate,racism etc. What a BS attempt to devalue the lives of the innocent that have died.

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It is called the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

You prefer the system as used in the Soviet Union, or Communist China where you as told or die quickly if you are fortunate and slowly if you are not?

Probably, liberals usually want others to step-inline with THEIR opinions.

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Originally Posted by JackSparrow

You want to defend your citizens allocate more police forces in gang infested cities such as Oakland,New Orleans,Detroit etc. Get real man.

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Are you nuts, the Dem. and liberals would have fits, and lose votes, if they actually enforced the laws that already exist.
They prefer to write more laws to control the conservatives, who, if they get power, might actually force the government to enforce those laws.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

It is called the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

You prefer the system as used in the Soviet Union, or Communist China where you as told or die quickly if you are fortunate and slowly if you are not?

Probably, liberals usually want others to step-inline with THEIR opinions.

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Yes Bob but don't you find the promotion of hate,racism which has led to hate related crimes just as ridiculous as honor killings which seem despicable to you? But yet you boast for one and cry for the other! Laughable at best.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Are you nuts, the Dem. and liberals would have fits, and lose votes, if they actually enforced the laws that already exist.
They prefer to write more laws to control the conservatives, who, if they get power, might actually force the government to enforce those laws.

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We're talking about the US cleaning the world (in order to protect its citizens) when their own house is full of s*** and needs cleaning first.

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Originally Posted by JackSparrow

Yes Bob but don't you find the promotion of hate,racism which has led to hate related crimes just as ridiculous as honor killings which seem despicable to you?

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NO-murder and political opinions are not the same thing.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

NO-murder and political opinions are not the same thing.

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You don't know much do you?

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Originally Posted by JackSparrow

You don't know much do you?

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Liberal politicians are murders?
OH the humanity.

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Originally Posted by JackSparrow

Yes Bob but don't you find the promotion of hate,racism which has led to hate related crimes just as ridiculous as honor killings which seem despicable to you? But yet you boast for one and cry for the other! Laughable at best.

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Freedom of speech isn't there to protect popular speech. It is to protect unpopular speech.

As much as I despise the ideals of groups like the Ku Klux Klan or Muslim extremists I also support their right to espouse their beliefs.

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Originally Posted by schmenke

The purpose of the 9/11 attacks were twofold:

1. Target and kill Americans, and;
2. Cripple the U.S. economy.

Al Qaeda accomplished both.

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So over the course of time there appears to be a few problems.
1. The terrorist will continue and when we suffer a big blow some country is probably going to have a lot of collateral damage.
2. The Muslims will continue to kill the Christians to a point where the dominant Christians in this country will turn on the Muslims.
3. I think over the course of time many middle east and west asian countries will become totally muslim and become militant

Now the nice thing is I will probably be gone by the time all this happens but you can probably be assured that something is going to be glowing on planet earth for
quite some time and I don't think it will be Japan's power industry.

I think Jack Sparrow's chip will continue to grow until he burnt for firewood by freezing Fins

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Explain this statement, is says nothing as is. Or is it that you have nothing to say?

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I was being sarcastic Fanie.....you have no sense of humour, do you?

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Originally Posted by henners88

I think Eki has made it clear he believes there is no difference between innocent dead American's and innocent dead muslims from the middle east. I tend to agree with that and if it wasn't for the power of propaganda we'd all have abit more compassion for human life.

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Good post :up:

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

Good post :up:

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No, you got it all wrong - american lives are worth much more than muslim civilian lives, this has been made clear for us by some american members here in the forum :dozey:
And ofcourse muslims won't stop until they have turned every other christian into muslim or killed them :eek:


These poor souls are victim of massive propaganda at it its best

And Bob, do no talk about USSR if you do not know nothing about it. I have lived in that regime and your opinions do not reflect the real life in that system. While it was a real big sh!thole, it had some huge advantages over current so-called free econimics where businessmen's only goal is to get rich using child labour etc.

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

I was being sarcastic Fanie.....you have no sense of humour, do you?

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Ah you have nothing to say. As I thought.

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Originally Posted by cali

No, you got it all wrong - american lives are worth much more than muslim civilian lives, this has been made clear for us by some american members here in the forum :dozey:
And ofcourse muslims won't stop until they have turned every other christian into muslim or killed them :eek:


These poor souls are victim of massive propaganda at it its best

And Bob, do no talk about USSR if you do not know nothing about it. I have lived in that regime and your opinions do not reflect the real life in that system. While it was a real big sh!thole, it had some huge advantages over current so-called free econimics where businessmen's only goal is to get rich using child labour etc.

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Please, please list these so-called advantages.
Please stop saying things about the U.S. I live in that system you know nothing about.

US diplomats say Estonian attitude toward Russia “paranoid” – WikiLeaks

The Estonian authorities have a pessimistic view of the prospects of relations with Moscow, according to a new portion of secret diplomatic cables obtained by WikiLeaks.

Russian Reporter magazine has published a secret cable sent to Washington by US diplomats in Estonia last spring. The cable allegedly concerns Tallinn’s policy toward Russia and Estonia’s place in US-Russian relations.

The cable, attributed to US diplomats, including Ambassador to Tallinn Michael Polt, describes Estonia’s views of the prospects of relations with Russia as “pessimistic.” The country’s defensive posture is even “based on an almost paranoid perception of an imminent Russian attack,” the document says.

The diplomats tried to find positive signs in Estonia’s approach, stressing that the country “is working to temper its political stance on Russia.” In particular, Tallinn prefers to handle bilateral issues with Russia “quietly,” the document reads.

Estonia-Russia consultations are a positive development, the diplomats said. But they also noted that Tallinn defense planners still considered Russia “the biggest threat.” The strained relations “reached a new low” when a monument to Soviet soldiers was removed from downtown Tallinn in 2007.

You must be very lonely having to keep your opinion to yourself

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Liberal politicians are murders?
OH the humanity.

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So using your logic Al Qaeda are liberal politicians?

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Please, please list these so-called advantages.
Please stop saying things about the U.S. I live in that system you know nothing about.

[b]US diplomats say Estonian attitude toward Russia “paranoid” – WikiLeaks


You must be very lonely having to keep your opinion to yourself

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Bob you seem like a guy that bases his logic in wikileaks,and it seems you have no personal experience in half the things you debate.

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Originally Posted by JackSparrow

So using your logic Al Qaeda are liberal politicians?

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NO, by your rhetoric they are.

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Originally Posted by Roamy

So over the course of time there appears to be a few problems.
1. The terrorist will continue and when we suffer a big blow some country is probably going to have a lot of collateral damage.
2. The Muslims will continue to kill the Christians to a point where the dominant Christians in this country will turn on the Muslims.
3. I think over the course of time many middle east and west asian countries will become totally muslim and become militant

Now the nice thing is I will probably be gone by the time all this happens but you can probably be assured that something is going to be glowing on planet earth for
quite some time and I don't think it will be Japan's power industry.

I think Jack Sparrow's chip will continue to grow until he burnt for firewood by freezing Fins

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:laugh: :laugh:
All this post is missing is a burning cross.

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Originally Posted by JackSparrow

Bob you seem like a guy that bases his logic in wikileaks,and it seems you have no personal experience in half the things you debate.

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OH I believe you have me confused with Mr. Wikipedia Eki.
That is OK I will forgive you.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

NO, by your rhetoric they are.

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Mine? YOU called the KKK liberal politicians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux...note-Quarles-5http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux...mist20110402-6http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux...note-Quarles-5http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan#cite_note-7

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

OH I believe you have me confused with Mr. Wikipedia Eki.
That is OK I will forgive you.

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So you have lived under communist regime?

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Originally Posted by JackSparrow

So you have lived under communist regime?

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This has what to do with the thread topic, and why are you so concerned?

You know as much about me as I know about you, unless of course you are Carnac the Magnificent.

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Originally Posted by JackSparrow

Mine? YOU called the KKK liberal politicians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux...note-Quarles-5http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux...mist20110402-6http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux...note-Quarles-5http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan#cite_note-7

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Where?

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

This has what to do with the thread topic, and why are you so concerned?

You know as much about me as I know about you, unless of course you are Carnac the Magnificent.

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Well I will tell you some of the advantages of the communist regime I lived under; There were no homeless,no missing children,no rapists/child molesters,no drug use and crime was minimal.There were many more as well as a 1000 bad things,but please don't lecture us on things you've read in books or your government has instilled in your mind.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Where?

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#457

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

This has what to do with the thread topic, and why are you so concerned?.

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Same as the Russian-Estonian relations which YOU posted above ;) Don't give up now,I'm having so much fun :bounce:

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Please, please list these so-called advantages.

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How about food on the table, employment and a roof over your head for everyone?

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Well I will tell you some of the advantages of the communist regime I lived under; There were no homeless,no missing children,no rapists/child molesters,no drug use and crime was minimal.There were many more as well as a 1000 bad things,but please don't lecture us on things you've read in books or your government has instilled in your mind.

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I would presume, though, that said country also possessed a secret police force of extreme unpleasantness, as most did; that it denied its people free and fair elections for decades; and that political dissent was not tolerated? If not, maybe you might like to tell us which country you are referring to, and explain why the outside view of such regimes is wrong.

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Originally Posted by JackSparrow

#457

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Quote Originally Posted by JackSparrow View Post
Yes Bob but don't you find the promotion of hate,racism which has led to hate related crimes just as ridiculous as honor killings which seem despicable to you?
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NO-murder and political opinions are not the same thing.

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Originally Posted by JackSparrow

Same as the Russian-Estonian relations which YOU posted above ;) Don't give up now,I'm having so much fun :bounce:

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It was in reply to your jibberish bunky.
It is not surprising you are easily entertained, but it is good you are having a nice day.

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Originally Posted by Eki

How about food on the table, employment and a roof over your head for everyone?

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Well the people in the gulags had all that but never got paid for all the work they did.

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Well the people in the gulags had all that but never got paid for all the work they did.

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Bob, I came from a country with such regime. The communist regime is built on murder. All that are defending it are defending a system, built on absolute evil. JIMO.

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Well I will tell you some of the advantages of the communist regime I lived under; There were no homeless,no missing children,no rapists/child molesters,no drug use and crime was minimal.There were many more as well as a 1000 bad things,but please don't lecture us ---Why the whining then if you are (- " having so much fun "http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...ies/bouncy.gif) on things you've read in books or your government has instilled in your mind.

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Oh my you wish to trash the U.S. and the net is full of articles about Estonia despising the Russians, hmmm.
If you do not like the exchanges on this forum leave, otherwise you had better get a back-bone as the ishy stuff you are having snit-fit about will not go away.
Have a nice day.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I would presume, though, that said country also possessed a secret police force of extreme unpleasantness, as most did; that it denied its people free and fair elections for decades; and that political dissent was not tolerated? If not, maybe you might like to tell us which country you are referring to, and explain why the outside view of such regimes is wrong.

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I was pointing that even such regime had advantages and it's a balancing act.Like every form of government it abused its power.If you read my post you quoted I mentioned it had 1000 wrongs so I'm not denying them.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Well the people in the gulags had all that but never got paid for all the work they did.

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Yes the US prison system it's much more generous paying inmates 50 cents a day so they can buy one Coke in the commissary and get stabbed for it later insuring a lifelong "slave" status.

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Originally Posted by JackSparrow

I was pointing that even such regime had advantages and it's a balancing act.Like every form of government it abused its power.If you read my post you quoted I mentioned it had 1000 wrongs so I'm not denying them.

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Indeed, and I note that. However, if one is to take, say, the East German regime as an example, I would suggest that its 'abuses of power' go some way beyond those of any civilised nation in that same period. The same can probably said for its fellow Soviet Bloc regimes.

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Yes the US prison system it's much more generous paying inmates 50 cents a day so they can buy one Coke in the commissary and get stabbed for it later insuring a lifelong "slave" status.

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I assume then you have had the pleasure of going through the U.S. penal system.

If you think our system, in any state, even at it worst level is anything like the Soviet system, you are either a prejudiced twit or just blowing troll smoke.
Our prison system has problems, not executing those on death row quickly whilst the families whose loved ones were murdered pay for their health care with their taxes (prison inmates have the best health care in general of anyone except politicians).
The brutality that often kept prisoners from repeating out of fear is gone, and that is probably a good thing.

The best way to fix the prison system is do not commit crimes, oh wait we do not have political prisoners and over there your society is so perfect that-- "no rapists/child molesters,no drug use and crime was minimal"-- ALL the prisoners are political prisoners.
I guess there is no comparison.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

I assume then you have had the pleasure of going through the U.S. penal system.

If you think our system, in any state, even at it worst level is anything like the Soviet system, you are either a prejudiced twit or just blowing troll smoke.

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Or someone who can read:

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/...015-16nkl.html
X-Ray was a rudimentary, brutal jail. It was January 2002. His cage there was ''three steps wide by three steps long''. He had two buckets. He had a foam mat and a sheet and towel. Shampoo smelled like ''industrial cleaner'', the toothpaste tube oozed ''a white, smelly liquid''.
He could only sit or lie in the middle. A small wooden covering above the cages blocked the sun for two hours a day. He would lie on his back and stare at the sky, ''an escape, so peaceful, so blue''. There was no standing up, no touching the wire, no talking, no looking around. Breaches meant punishment from the military police's Instant Reaction Force, or IRF, whose beatings came to be known as being ''earthed''.