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hehe,even when I´m not an F12010 player and what I´ve heard from my friend about online, yeah the level there isn´t too great and as has been said even at this thread most of the players are there just to cause mayhem.

What comes to wheels and all aids off,its always one of those things the people complain about. Its actually true that with wheel,you are quicker at most of the racing games than with pad because with pad,the car doesnt turn so well and even if it does the tyres are always in maximum turning position and you lose speed specially at the faster corners. Also the throttle with wheel gives you a quicker acceleration and sometimes even a higher top speed. What comes to all assists off it is just the most giving even when sometimes a bit fustrating thing at the motorsport games and far from cheating,even if it may help you with top speeds,it surely makes you to lose time on brakings and cornering.

It still sounds a bit weird to me that actually at assists accepted games,there doesnt seem to be any lock up for host settings as in most of the games?? You can still pick,whatever you want to drive with?

Anyway but its still not cheating! It is just about what kind of equipment you have to play these games and we all know that wheels are more fun too. So keep going!

ps. The forum talk at codies is just normal.. Remember the times when people were yelling at driving forums with different games that making setups is cheating...

Well sorry X but I still feel it's very possible to cheat in F1 2010. According to the guys on the CM forum they have tried and successfully raced with 200% grip without it being blocked, so it's possible. Plus explain to me how the guys I raced a few weeks ago were doing 1m08s around Hockenheim if thats not cheating. You know I'm not slow around there and I was doing 1m14s.

Your problem is your starts are brilliant every single time which makes it look like you've got some grip advantage, cos you make up 1 row on the grid every start.

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What comes to wheels and all aids off,its always one of those things the people complain about. Its actually true that with wheel,you are quicker at most of the racing games than with pad because with pad,the car doesnt turn so well and even if it does the tyres are always in maximum turning position and you lose speed specially at the faster corners. Also the throttle with wheel gives you a quicker acceleration and sometimes even a higher top speed. What comes to all assists off it is just the most giving even when sometimes a bit fustrating thing at the motorsport games and far from cheating,even if it may help you with top speeds,it surely makes you to lose time on brakings and cornering.

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I think it's also down to settings to a great extent. People who do some research and trial and error, use custom setups etc. usually get better at the game gradually. For example, at first I wasn't really confident in my wheel, which is Logitech Momo, about 35% of the price of a G27, but having beaten many guys using G25 and G27's, I honestly wouldn't trade my Momo. Everything seems perfect on the wheel.

Right now, I've hit the sweet spot as far as setup goes. In fact the cornering speed, going in and coming out of corners etc. I can see is MUCH better than other guys I'm competing against. However, there are some guys who are just too fast, and the mind ponders sometimes if they cheat. :P There is this Swedish guy in my GFWL friend list who almost always takes out a second out of me on every track, no matter what I do. So, I guess I still have some more work to do.

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It still sounds a bit weird to me that actually at assists accepted games,there doesnt seem to be any lock up for host settings as in most of the games?? You can still pick,whatever you want to drive with?

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I don't think so. I've hosted games with all assists off, and once you're in the pits, if you go to options > driving assists, you cannot change the options. They no longer have the side arrows available. Everything is off.

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Anyway but its still not cheating! It is just about what kind of equipment you have to play these games and we all know that wheels are more fun too. So keep going!

ps. The forum talk at codies is just normal.. Remember the times when people were yelling at driving forums with different games that making setups is cheating...

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This happens in almost every game. There will always be some people who will jump and say the better guy is cheating, no matter how much proof they get. Happened to one of my friends playing COD: MW2 online or Warcraft 3 online. So, well, kids will always call it unfair if it's something they don't understand. :)

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Well sorry X but I still feel it's very possible to cheat in F1 2010. According to the guys on the CM forum they have tried and successfully raced with 200% grip without it being blocked, so it's possible. Plus explain to me how the guys I raced a few weeks ago were doing 1m08s around Hockenheim if thats not cheating. You know I'm not slow around there and I was doing 1m14s.

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Well, I've only come across something like this once in all the times I have raced. It was at Spa, and during qualifying the guy did a 1:14 lap :eek: and seconds later it showed that he was disqualified from the race. Maybe the anti-cheat system did kick in at that time. Didn't come across this ever again since.

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Your problem is your starts are brilliant every single time which makes it look like you've got some grip advantage, cos you make up 1 row on the grid every start.

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I just jam the throttle right down to the floor at the last red light, and when the race starts, I change to second as soon as it hits the redline. Then in the third gear, there's a little pickup before it gets to the redline before changing to fourth, that's where my car has this sudden burst of acceleration and I overtake cars around me. Probably I can't explain it very well.

However, this doesn't work with other pro guys I've raced against, because it seems they've also nailed this to the T. Had an all assists off race the other day against some high ranked players, ranks 37, 40, 42 etc. and I started in 3rd, and was 3rd by the end of the 2nd lap.

I know you've always been tentative at the start Bruce, and I jump you every time. But then if I had extra grip, wouldn't I be doing lap times 10 seconds faster? The only place where I guess I have a little advantage is at Monaco, and that's because the setup from Racedepartment is brilliant! As it is for Hockenheim and Sao Paolo. I've gained huge amounts of time on these 3 circuits using those setups.

I'm really enjoying the online racing. I've found that I might be a touch slower that some of the best but I tend to win coz they keep shunting themselves into anything that moves - it's hilarious!

See now that is the wierd thing, I tried to start like you before (because I thought maybe you were just flooring it and I was stuffing around here) and it just sits on the rev limiter if I change to 2nd it just goes straight on the limiter so I change to 3rd and now it gets grip and bogs down. Meanwhile you're off into the sunset. I'm just using you as an example but I can beat others off the line. Interestingly enough a little while ago someone was saying what you were saying about starts being easy and others were saying that was rubbish and they got terrible starts if they did that. I'll give your method another go some time but I'm beginning to get a feeling there is somehow some difference between the boxed version and the download version.

Look at this brake locking issue I've had since day one. I've read what other guys do and I try it and I either get no braking at all or terrible locking. My method has been the most successful for me. Just seems like we're all playing on different versions for some reason. I can't quite work it out.

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See now that is the wierd thing, I tried to start like you before (because I thought maybe you were just flooring it and I was stuffing around here) and it just sits on the rev limiter if I change to 2nd it just goes straight on the limiter so I change to 3rd and now it gets grip and bogs down. Meanwhile you're off into the sunset. I'm just using you as an example but I can beat others off the line. Interestingly enough a little while ago someone was saying what you were saying about starts being easy and others were saying that was rubbish and they got terrible starts if they did that. I'll give your method another go some time but I'm beginning to get a feeling there is somehow some difference between the boxed version and the download version.

Look at this brake locking issue I've had since day one. I've read what other guys do and I try it and I either get no braking at all or terrible locking. My method has been the most successful for me. Just seems like we're all playing on different versions for some reason. I can't quite work it out.

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I doubt that's the case. I mean for sure Steam can't have a different version than the boxed one? I'm thinking this could be down to the default steering settings as well, because I remember to have put all deadzones, steering, throttle and braking to 0% and that made the handling much more crispier for me. It made maneuvering easier, throttle response better, braking better etc. etc.

As for the brake locking issue that you had, I never understood that, because when we were racing online with the same game settings and assists on the same circuit, I never had that issue. I'm thinking it could be again more to do with the steering wheel settings.

As for your start problem, that's weird again, because I don't get that problem ever. I'll post a video of my start in an online race, if I can. Like I said before, it's pedal to the metal at race start, then shift ASAP to 2nd at the redline. After you shift to second, it does get to the redline initially for a millisecond, but then goes down and comes up again, that's when I shift to third, and that is when my car closes the distance dramatically to the cars infront, or if I'm ahead, I pull away.

Also, interestingly this doesn't work at Monaco with the higher downforce and faster gearing setup, neither at Hungary.

Thats wierd, wonder why it doesn't work on high downforce levels?

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Thats wierd, wonder why it doesn't work on high downforce levels?

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I think because of the short gearing ratios it hits the RPM limiter too quick. I don't make too much ground, but don't lose it either.

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Well, I've only come across something like this once in all the times I have raced. It was at Spa, and during qualifying the guy did a 1:14 lap :eek: and seconds later it showed that he was disqualified from the race. Maybe the anti-cheat system did kick in at that time. Didn't come across this ever again since.



I just jam the throttle right down to the floor at the last red light, and when the race starts, I change to second as soon as it hits the redline. Then in the third gear, there's a little pickup before it gets to the redline before changing to fourth, that's where my car has this sudden burst of acceleration and I overtake cars around me. Probably I can't explain it very well.

However, this doesn't work with other pro guys I've raced against, because it seems they've also nailed this to the T. Had an all assists off race the other day against some high ranked players, ranks 37, 40, 42 etc. and I started in 3rd, and was 3rd by the end of the 2nd lap.

I know you've always been tentative at the start Bruce, and I jump you every time. But then if I had extra grip, wouldn't I be doing lap times 10 seconds faster? The only place where I guess I have a little advantage is at Monaco, and that's because the setup from Racedepartment is brilliant! As it is for Hockenheim and Sao Paolo. I've gained huge amounts of time on these 3 circuits using those setups.

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I'm using the custom setups as I'm going on in the career mode, but I was wondering if you could post your setups, for dry and wet weather? I have hard time shifting manually, I usually end up in a spinning on slow corners, and its very hard to judge which gear to be on while braking, any tips on that, and yes now I can race with traction control turned off :) I raced in Malaysia in wet weather and I was able to win the race after the 20th time I think lol but it was fun driving in those conditions with the AI set to legend mode.

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I'm using the custom setups as I'm going on in the career mode, but I was wondering if you could post your setups, for dry and wet weather? I have hard time shifting manually, I usually end up in a spinning on slow corners, and its very hard to judge which gear to be on while braking, any tips on that, and yes now I can race with traction control turned off :) I raced in Malaysia in wet weather and I was able to win the race after the 20th time I think lol but it was fun driving in those conditions with the AI set to legend mode.

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I'm using setups from here: http://www.racedepartment.com/f1-2010-setups/ Some of them are good, some not so much, and some are just brilliant, ex Monaco, Hockenheim and Sao Paulo.

Keep on with the manual shifting. I think a good way to learn is to do a lot of time trialing with all assists off. That improves your driving in a lot of areas and you're not in pressure to perform. Spinning in slow corners means you're downshifting probably too much. For example, I was spinning every time at the right hander at Mirabeau at Monaco, because I was downshifting to 2nd gear. Next time I took the corner in 3rd, and there was no problem.

Also, spinning while with traction control off can also mean accelerating too fast out of corners. In F1 2010 I guess the golden rule is to not accelerate at all while turning. I always let go of the throttle completely or do very gentle acceleration while turning in, and then I just stand on the accelerator, doesn't spin me like it would in rFactor or GTR2.

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I'm using setups from here: http://www.racedepartment.com/f1-2010-setups/ Some of them are good, some not so much, and some are just brilliant, ex Monaco, Hockenheim and Sao Paulo.

Keep on with the manual shifting. I think a good way to learn is to do a lot of time trialing with all assists off. That improves your driving in a lot of areas and you're not in pressure to perform. Spinning in slow corners means you're downshifting probably too much. For example, I was spinning every time at the right hander at Mirabeau at Monaco, because I was downshifting to 2nd gear. Next time I took the corner in 3rd, and there was no problem.

Also, spinning while with traction control off can also mean accelerating too fast out of corners. In F1 2010 I guess the golden rule is to not accelerate at all while turning. I always let go of the throttle completely or do very gentle acceleration while turning in, and then I just stand on the accelerator, doesn't spin me like it would in rFactor or GTR2.

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Yep I have used some of the setups there, and yes indeed I'm shifting too low, the frustrating part is the feel, I dont get a feel on how low to go, its almost like, I'll have to learn which gear to be on on each corner, I'll do it from now on the time trials! And hey whats your id on GFWL? I'll add you tonight!

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For example, I was spinning every time at the right hander at Mirabeau at Monaco, because I was downshifting to 2nd gear. Next time I took the corner in 3rd, and there was no problem.

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See now there again thats different to me. I've never had a problem going into 2nd at Mirabeau, never even felt like spinning. Actually I've never had problems with balance while downchanging, yet here you guys do.

It's just all wierd.

Have finally managed to start my second season so am now back to where I was, before I did a new profile to sign up to xbox live..... Am now second driver for Red Bull, and after driving the Lotus for a year it is an absolute dream to drive, what a huge difference it has made!

Still driving with TC as I don't have enough time to learn it properly.... but I tend to try to remember the gear to take all of the corners at and try to use that as a guide to my speed, although there are some you can take by lifting off slightly rather than changing down. There are still a few corners in the game that even with TC it is easy to spin at, most notably the bump after the second straight in Bahrain, really tricky, but then I don't tend to make any changes to the car setup apart from the downforce, so can maybe do something about that. I find a bit extra rear downforce helps over the kerbs in Abu Dhabi :)

I would love to try it with a steering wheel as I think it would be much more fun, however I have a G25 which doesn't work on Xbox and don't want to have to spend extra money for a new one :(

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See now that is the wierd thing, I tried to start like you before (because I thought maybe you were just flooring it and I was stuffing around here) and it just sits on the rev limiter if I change to 2nd it just goes straight on the limiter so I change to 3rd and now it gets grip and bogs down. Meanwhile you're off into the sunset. I'm just using you as an example but I can beat others off the line. Interestingly enough a little while ago someone was saying what you were saying about starts being easy and others were saying that was rubbish and they got terrible starts if they did that. I'll give your method another go some time but I'm beginning to get a feeling there is somehow some difference between the boxed version and the download version.

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Here Bruce, I took two videos of my start. Wasn't very crowded on Sunday morning, but I remembered to record at the start. First is at Monza where I started from pole. You'll see that the second guy starts at the same time, but I start creating distance from 3rd gear onwards:

[youtube]EQHgf4hLvuc[/youtube]


Second one is at Sakhir where I start 3rd. Would have gotten to first, but the guy blocked the inside line at the first corner. I overtook him later to win the race:

[youtube]G201feg0nVY[/youtube]

Also, I started a thread in the simulations forum, "F1 2010 Time Trial videos" where those of us who can record videos, can post their times at certain tracks. Thread is here: http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...d.php?t=140337

I posted my first video of a run at Melbourne. Time: 1:23.830, all assists off.

[youtube]12hJ87j8cHs[/youtube]

Now, since it's time trial, tyre and fuel simulation is off by default, and so it's easier to drive. With tyre and fuel sim on, lap time here would be somewhere in the range of 1:25. Interestingly, I do 1:22 laps here consistently during online racing, but it was hard to get a 1:23 lap with the frame rate drop because of recording with FRAPS.

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Yep I have used some of the setups there, and yes indeed I'm shifting too low, the frustrating part is the feel, I dont get a feel on how low to go, its almost like, I'll have to learn which gear to be on on each corner, I'll do it from now on the time trials! And hey whats your id on GFWL? I'll add you tonight!

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I think you've already added me. My GFWL ID is CaptainRaiden, and I saw your ID in my friend list in GFWL. In fact I saw you online a couple of days ago, can't remember when, I hosted a race and was sending out invites, sent you one too, but probably you were in the middle of some race.

X - had a look at those starts. Interesting technic, don't think I've tried it like that but I'll give it a go the next time I play the game and see how it goes. Interesting that the part you talk about gaining time in 3rd gear is where I would think I'm losing time so I'll have a try.

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X - had a look at those starts. Interesting technic, don't think I've tried it like that but I'll give it a go the next time I play the game and see how it goes. Interesting that the part you talk about gaining time in 3rd gear is where I would think I'm losing time so I'll have a try.

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I know the G25 has a clutch, so are you using the clutch while shifting gears? I guess not, but if you are then that could explain the time lost.

Nope, never use the clutch pedal in this game. I'll probably only get a chance to try it on Wednesday night but I'll see how it works then.

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Also, I started a thread in the simulations forum, "F1 2010 Time Trial videos" where those of us who can record videos, can post their times at certain tracks. Thread is here: http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...d.php?t=140337

I posted my first video of a run at Melbourne. Time: 1:23.830, all assists off.

[youtube]12hJ87j8cHs[/youtube]

Now, since it's time trial, tyre and fuel simulation is off by default, and so it's easier to drive. With tyre and fuel sim on, lap time here would be somewhere in the range of 1:25. Interestingly, I do 1:22 laps here consistently during online racing, but it was hard to get a 1:23 lap with the frame rate drop because of recording with FRAPS.

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I noticed, how your sure of which gear to be on each turn and thats what I'm missing, i need to make sure I'm on that particular gear appropriate for that turn, and yes we are added in GFWL, I saw your invite for a championship, I'm doing the career mode and so I dint relize you had sent a request! Next time your online, lets setup a race you'd probably be lapping me, but it would be nice to race with someone you know sort of lol ;)

I am driving at catalunya. Being the second guy in the championship behind webber. I find there is some bug in the game, which makes me wide into 2nd and last corner of the track. I am using all aids. The Auto braking does'nt seem to work in these corner. The car just goes into the gravel. Even if i touch the pedal. I am losing a lot of time, since i have to slow down to arnd 50 MPH. to turn here properly


Any suggestion ?

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I noticed, how your sure of which gear to be on each turn and thats what I'm missing, i need to make sure I'm on that particular gear appropriate for that turn, and yes we are added in GFWL, I saw your invite for a championship, I'm doing the career mode and so I dint relize you had sent a request! Next time your online, lets setup a race you'd probably be lapping me, but it would be nice to race with someone you know sort of lol ;)

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Perfecting gearing and braking zones really comes with practice, as you try and get faster every time. A good thing is to get into longer online races where you're getting better and competing at the same time. It's fun. ;) We'll setup a race or two some time, and don't be too sure, I'm horrible on some tracks.

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I had a really annoying game online the other day and decided to try online once again to see if anything had been done with all the idiots who can't race. I chased a guy for 2 laps for the lead and we had a good tussle. I gave him space and aborted some of my overtakes as I knew I would end up taking us both off. Finally I manged to get past him by sticking it up the inside and developed a clear lead, then suddenly this guy smashes straght into the back of me??? What gets me is the fact that I respected him enough not to try and take him off and I thought he would have noticed that I was a clean racer, only for him to return the favour by doing this. His response was to laugh at me over his headset.. The worrying thing was I probably would be on a murder charge if I'd had the chance to meet this guy in the 5 minutes afterwards, it made me so angry. Perhaps I should just get a life . :p

I should really just set my own games up and cut this sort of thing out, but I still think something should be done about the morons. :mark:

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What I have learned so far is that morons usually don't show up in games with all assists banned. I hosted some races long back with all assists allowed to have more players. Sure, the rooms filled up fast and full, but 90% were there just to bang into people. Still, there are some clean racers there too, but VERY rare.

Needless to say, I don't host races with assists on anymore. The problem with this is nobody joins! You'll have to wait an eternity for people to join in. When they see assists off, they run away. Although during weekends, this is less of a problem, and you can have some decent races.

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I am driving at catalunya. Being the second guy in the championship behind webber. I find there is some bug in the game, which makes me wide into 2nd and last corner of the track. I am using all aids. The Auto braking does'nt seem to work in these corner. The car just goes into the gravel. Even if i touch the pedal. I am losing a lot of time, since i have to slow down to arnd 50 MPH. to turn here properly


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I don't really know what to say, since I've never driven with assists on. Did once and it was horrible, the car brakes by itself, super traction out of corners, no challenge really.

People talked about the AI being too fast at Catalunya. Anyway, if you're talking about the second corner, the long swooping right hander, then you've got to downshift and throttle gingerly to make it through. As for the last corner, it needs a lot of steering input, and whatever you do, don't hit the kerb or you'll spin out.

catalunya thre is a bug in the gme. the car goes to fast into the grave at 2nd, 4th and the last chicane, even if u have the braking assist on

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catalunya thre is a bug in the gme. the car goes to fast into the grave at 2nd, 4th and the last chicane, even if u have the braking assist on

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I dont think there is a bug, I guess with the braking assist on, the car will brake for long, and when your braking hard, turning becomes difficult, its much easier to brake first slow down and then turn. While braking I have always noticed, its much harder to turn, and you'll end up going straight.

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...I don't tend to make any changes to the car setup apart from the downforce...

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That's all I was doing at first, but I'm now making far more adjustments, notably brake bias, ride height, spring settings (particularly the fronts), wheel camber, gearing, and I found adjusting the brake size to "large" helped enormously in Montreal.
I find that small adjustments in all of these can make a big difference. It does require patience though, as it will take numerous practice laps to find the optimal combination.

P.s. nice on the plasma, eh? ;)

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Indeed schmenke the quality is just stunning :D I am struggling to drive cos I'm paying more attention to the graphics instead of the track ahead. Still, it means I can admire the quality of the grass as I am skidding across it sideways.......

Morning everyone

I know this is a long shot but i'm gonna try anyway......

I'm looking for the Official Xbox 360 Steering Wheel and Pedals to use with the F1 2010 game. I can't find them online anywhere apart from ebay and amazon, but im not willing to pay £100 and above for these, as they weren't that much when they were new!

Basically, if anyone or anyone you know is selling one, i would appreciate anyone letting me know about it or pass on my email address, which is:
flynnjmichael@yahoo.co.uk

Any help with this will be very very very appreciated!

Thanks
mike.flynn

I guess it's time to move up to the "Hard" level in my current carrer. Just posted pole, then went on to win at Hockenheim... in an HRT :D . I'm 2 points adrift of championship leader Alonso :D

I've been playing on professional level for a while but was wanting a bit more of a challenge, so the only thing I did was to put tyre wear on and now I have an almighty struggle to get into the top ten :(

Does anyone have any recommendations for the wheel settings on xbox 360 (ive got the official xbox 360 steering wheel)? thanks

just finally got the game on PS3, having read a little on here i decided to do one race on hard level just to try it out before moving on to start a career on the Expert level with all assists off, 30% races.

I'm only using the PS3 controller rather than the wheel, but so far i've managed to out qualify and outrace teamate Trulli at Bahrain, ending up 18th or so, had a disaster in Melbourne with a small spin and then a puncture trying to recover and ended up a lap down having had to have 2 stops before qualifying in the top 10 Malaysia after none of the other cars went out and posted a time in a part wet Q2 and went on to record 4th in the full wet race, partially helped by not pitting for inters 3 laps from the end and managing to hold off a couple of quicker cars on the last lap. (albeit i did restart the race a number of times just to get through the first couple of laps, firstly as i'd not driven in the wet and secondly as everytime i even slightly touched anyone i got a drive through, even when they drove into me.

So far very impressed with the game, is tough but playable with the pad, although i do want to get a new wheel to try it out. I've also not got any internet access at the moment to try online, but i'd imagine i would get my ass reamed by the majority of people who are playing with a wheel.

not experimented at all with set up yet, it seems that the base is good enough to start with, until i learn the car and all the tracks it will be pointless changing anything on the car as i won't know if its the car or me that has made any improvement.

a couple of things that bug me, which i assume are fixed by a download (which i can't get at the moment, even if there is one on the PS3 version?) is the inability to have a gap to the car in front, only the relative difference in lap time, and the inability to change fuel loads in practice, i'd like to stick 10 laps in and learn a track rather than pitting every 5 minutes. oh, and my race engineer is a cock, butting in with advice at inopportune times to tell me a Ferrari has pitted even though i'm nowhere near it.

So far so good though, i've got to say a big thumbs up, it looks great, drives better, its difficult enough without being impossible. All the better to jump straight in with no driver aids and full realism too, although i was getting sick of spinning in nearly every hairpin when i was putting it in first, soon learned to stay in 2nd for the majority of hairpins instead though which seemed to cure it.

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So far very impressed with the game, is tough but playable with the pad, although i do want to get a new wheel to try it out. I've also not got any internet access at the moment to try online, but i'd imagine i would get my ass reamed by the majority of people who are playing with a wheel.

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Most online racers are pretty bad in my experience. Lots of kids and crashers. Should be raceable with a pad, and destroyable with a wheel!

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Most online racers are pretty bad in my experience. Lots of kids and crashers. Should be raceable with a pad, and destroyable with a wheel!

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I have been playing GT5 and its very immersing, and a very neat feature in GT5 online racing is, when someone's about to bump you or something, the car becomes transparent, and the person just goes over, helps a lot in getting consistent lap times.

Hmm not sure I like that. Is side to side contact still possible? I find ghost racing very unsatisfying. Plus I like to be able to block/defend!

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Hmm not sure I like that. Is side to side contact still possible? I find ghost racing very unsatisfying. Plus I like to be able to block/defend!

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Thats where its smart, so if your on a corner you dont break, but instead you were planning to bank on some guy who slowed down, you become transparent, I think it only happens when there is a certain minimum delta between your speed and the person you were going to bump into, if its small you race just fine.

I didn't like the previous F1 game by Codemasters, so I'm waiting to see if the 2011 version worked out the kinks.

http://www.f1.co.uk/read-news/1261/c...-f1-2011-game/

this game has some bugs but it is still fantastic and awesome. I make videos of it :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5O--WXU_AM

I really hate idiots online who can't race without bumping into you.

Yeah I did a race months ago where we were at Hockenheim and the same 6 idiots tried to crash into everyone on the first lap. When I got on pole I just let everyone past before turn 1 and then went racing.