So far yes, we don't know what may happen if big names arrive and more broadcasters start showing some interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard
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So far yes, we don't know what may happen if big names arrive and more broadcasters start showing some interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard
Actually AFF forgot to mention that Garde's aim is for the Super 2000 cup, saying that its the cheapest and make most sence, if it will become true.Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
After years of doubt about WRC, I think the tide is turning and WRC will prevail, I guess IRC will start to loose its position from 2011 if the new manufacturers join WRC. Even in 2010, with a little clever work with rules and promotion, e.g. equal points being given for S2K cup as the 2 WRC manufacturers, we could have an exciting season. Maybe Garde, Galli, Atko, PG etc, also Kimi would run in S2K cup. If each of those get 'top points' for a win in their class, and say Loeb gets 'top point' in the WRC clas maybe we will have an exciting conclusion. It would bring in a bit of variety to see a few Fiesta's Abarths, Skoda's and Protons, it would also be good for the 'motorsport economy' with teams, mechanics and engineers also being required.
Might be easier to win too ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Looks like Peter will be part of Citroëns title plans in GB.Quote:
Originally Posted by traxx
maybe, on the other hand he was close to win monte, in a car, sorry old fiat, that worked ok for 1 day.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Actually it shows where the drivers really want to drive, sofar i have never heard any driver saying that their goal as drivers would be irc, but many has said they aim for WRC.
I agree with Tomi - the IRC series is a substitute for those who due to lack of seats and / or money to buy their drives are forced to IRC. Having said that IRC does have more manufactureres and therefore seats, paid drivers or bought drives with a lot less money than it takes to get a bought wrc seat, and more of an even chance to win, (in a 'private' team car)
How many IRC events have been won by a private team car?Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
Ha Ha - shows I dont really follow it!!!!(IRC that is)Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
C4 Test by Petter Pix :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2009/08/...-bord-de-la-c4
Neither do I but as people are saying in IRC you can win it even with a private team car I was wondering how many events have been won by such car?Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
I suspect that particular C4 has never gone so fast......Quote:
Originally Posted by traxx
If you mean by teams that are not like Citroen or Ford in teh WRC then just about every Peugeot win...Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
I doubt many drivers aim will be for 'S2000 World Cup' either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Toni did ok on Monte, he wasn't very quick but as you say he did have some problems with the car.
It's a shame that Abarth didn't replace Alen with Toni early in the season. Toni could probably have made a better contribution and would be good enough for tarmac too.
Thats not the point, the idea is that they drive the right stages so that if they someday get a chanse to drive workscar, they wont be total novises what comes to the roads and notes.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Also they get better recogniced by the teams, if they do well, being in the same events.
My guess is that if Petter gets a C4 for WRC in 10, then he will include 1 S2000 car in his team, with Andreas "Fox" Mikkelsen in that one, with PS WRT preparing with a manufacturer, that will field a team in 2011.
Hard to speculate, but I think Proton is in the frame !
So which are then the 5 manufacture teams in IRC if Peugeot is ran by private ones?Quote:
Originally Posted by rsmith16
Surely Petters test of the C4 now is to ensure to stop him from entering rally GB with M Sport, he would be much your useful under Citroen managements control.
Actually I didn't ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
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Originally Posted by A.F.F.
Peugeot Sport is involved in IRC (Sarrazin in Monte Carlo this year) but most of all supplies clients with full tech cars/enginees. Peugoet offeres clients a real change to fight for victory, for every client, from every country and every team. Skoda and Fiat are also offering the fullpack to cliens, without a need to control them so they can manupulate the score. IRC is like F1, only suppling stuff, not manupulation the teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
IRC may be a second rated series compared to a real WRC, but WRC has not been a real WRC for many tears. Only the name is left of it, and many drives only want that name, not the fun of a competitive series with a competitive cars. Galli and Gardemeister and Solberg should open their eyes and try IRC. They would be surprised of the quality of the dirvers their.
petter will join citroen in a factory c4 the two last rallies this season!
the deal is to be between seb og mikko :)
when petter have 1 minute lead in wales, i doubt he will brake in loeb to give the victory to him, but we'll see :)
Thats awsome!
Maybe N.O.T can give us some more information about it?
Did you talk to anyone around him or him? Or do U have a link?
talked to people very close to him, so this is true!Quote:
Originally Posted by JFL
NOT will probably have something intelligent to say about this :rolleyes:
henning has also got a new 3 year deal with expert, so we'll see him for 3 more years!
will he still be a part of fords b-team, od will he find something other teams/classes to spend his money on?
Great news for Henning!Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
Really nice driver and would like to watch him for some more years ;)
Well they may as well give Citroen the titles now save the teams some money....Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
Was Malcolm sitting with his finger up his arse sulking about Petter leaving Ford years ago!!!!
Ste, I'm glad you're starting to see why some people don't like Malcolm :) I've always maintained that no team should have the amount of money spent on it as Ford has had in the last few decades and not take a driver to a title.......Quote:
Originally Posted by ste898
lol, are you seriously this worried?Quote:
Originally Posted by ste898
Petter was in a meeting with MW all friday. But if Citroen has given PSWRT a free car for the last rally and a promise for 2009 spec next year, that is hard to resist.
Wow if this Citroen deal is correct I really hope it works out for him. Petter has had a tough couple of years. I only hope he brings all his sponsers with him that he gained this year to allow him to compete in nearly every round in a privately run car.
This it not confirmed anywhere, so I ill await that before I cheer.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
According to an article in VG, he was shocked after the test on tuesday, the C4 was so different to drive. It doesn't say in which way different, otherwise than much better! He also says that after testing the C4 he has decided that if he doesn't get access to a car that is competetive he won't drive next year. The article also mentions the Ford alternative, but it seems that the Citroen is his first choice.
It also says that it will not be a factory car, but still be run by his own team, so he won't be able get manu points.
Link to article in norwegian:
http://www.vg.no/sport/motor/artikkel.php?artid=570534
“Requires 2009-car of the Ford and Citroën - and will probably get it” => Big words
He’s also demanding full control of the setups of his car.
If that also include the ECU setups, he can forget it. That’s not available even for money.
Originally Posted by ste898
Well they may as well give Citroen the titles now save the teams some money....
Was Malcolm sitting with his finger up his arse sulking about Petter leaving Ford years ago!!!!
No not worried at all just commenting (as I have far more important things going on in my world....)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Agree. Citroen is running the engine in the Xsara, so it's possibly a similar deal. Hopefully with a top spec C4.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldF
If he does get to drive a C4 (still a big if) I suspect it'll be top spec or nearly top spec... after all, it'd be kind of pointless to give him an uncompetitive car. Giving him a C4 indicates that they want him to do something with it, unless they just want to keep him out of a Focus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard
Autosport.com today publishes the story about Petter's meeting at M-Sport last friday. Petter said it was teh first time he had been back there since the split in 2000 and made some 'nice' comments. The decision has to be taken before Thursday as entries for Spain close. I wonder if Loeb will have any influence on the offer from Citroen?
It's like a poker game, isn't it? I don't think that neither Ford nor Citroën has any special desire to have Petter Solberg, but they for sure don't want him to drive for their rival in case he's able to have an effect on any of the championships.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
In a way Citroën needs him for GB to let him run for manu points instead of Sordo, and Ford needs him for Spain instead of Latvala.
Personally I hope he gets a Citroën, but my money is on Ford signing him first.
Even in C4 or a Focus I can't believe that he will be faster than Loeb or Hirvonen in either rallies...These two guys drive the cars for three years and I can't imagine that Petter will be able to beat them with just a test or two under his belt...
Maybe, but GB is still 3 months away. If he does get a ride and some decent testing time, I suspect he'd be in the top for GB (but not Spain).Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho!
I agree with MikeD. I like Petter as I believe he,s had a tough time last few years and I hope he bennifits outa this whole situation, just as long he doesnt dump his sponsors and team from this year all of a sudden.
P.Solberg is good businesman except that lost money from Subaru contract..