Rally History (part II)

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16th June 2007, 17:49
Juha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josti

These are results from de Boucles de Spa of 1985. These are main entries and results. As you can see in results, a lot of cars are unindentified.
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There are a few errors in it, I have corrected them and added codrivers:

1. Harald Demuth/Willy Lux - Audi Quattro A2

2. Björn Waldegaard/Thorzelius - Audi Quattro A2

3. Per Eklund/ - Toyota Corolla GT

4. Pentti Airikkala/Neil Wilson? - Nissan 240RS

5. Patrick Snijers/Dany Colebunders - Lancia Rally 037

6. Robert Droogmans/Ronny Joosten - Porsche 911 SC

7. Marc Duez/Gilles Thimonier - Mazda RX7

8. Guy Colsoul/Alain Lopes - Opel Manta 400

9. Jean-Louis Dumont/Lambert Peeters? - Porsche 911 SC

10.Thierry Reginster/Marc Delmelle - Porsche 911 SC

11.Vandermaesen/Julien Aerts - Opel Ascona 400

12.Lareppe/ - Opel Ascona

14.Dirk Vermeersch/Daniel De Canck - Toyota Corolla GT

16.Gaby Goudezeune/ - Alfa Romeo GTV6

17.Jean-Louis Dumont's car driven by Flory Roothaert/ - Nissan 240RS

19.Svatopluk Kvaizar/Jiri Janecek - Skoda 130L

20.Ladislav Krecek/Borivoj Motl - Skoda 130L

25.Gregoire de Mevius/de Rochelée - Talbot Samba Rallye

31.Bernard Munster/Yves Bozet - Audi 80 Quattro

33.Jacky Dortu/Simon - Fiat Ritmo Abarth

34.Klaus Fritzinger/Gartner - Toyota Corolla GT

65.Michel Dumoulin/ - Ford Escort RS

Results (24 finishers):

1. Björn Waldegaard / Thorzelius - Audi Quattro A2

2. Marc Duez / Gilles Thimonier - Mazda RX7

3. Bernard Munster / Yves Bozet - Audi 80 Quattro

4. Ladislav Krecek / Borivoj Motl - Skoda 130L

5. Dirk Vermeersch / Daniel De Canck - Toyota Corolla GT

6. Vandermaesen / Julien Aerts - Opel Ascona 400

7. Klaus Fritzinger / Gartner - Toyota Corolla GT

8. Svatopluk Kvaizar / Jiri Janecek - Skoda 130L

9. Gregoire De Mevius / de Rochelée - Talbot Samba Rallye

10.Jacky Dortu / Simon - Fiat Ritmo Abarth

11.Thierry Reginster / Marc Delmelle - Porsche 911 SC

12.Close / Bodarwe - Toyota Corolla GT

13.Lurquin / Boulanger - Toyota Corolla GT

14.Leon Bastin / Sougné - VW Golf GTI

15.Paul Lietaer / "rossi" - Talbot lotus

16.Chaballe / Leruet - Ford Escort

17.Lambert / Lambert - Toyota Corolla GT

18.Claudy Reusch / Oswald Backes - Toyota Corolla GT

19.Premont / Premont - Opel Manta

20.Bouhy / Franchi - Opel Ascona

21.Louis Mast / Dierckx - Toyota Corolla GT

22.Marquet / Marquet - Ford Escort

23.Nicolas / Morazzani - Renault 5 Alpine Turbo

24.Herman / vandevorst - Talbot Sunbeam TI
16th June 2007, 18:43
Josti

Thanks for the clear up Juha. Some cars I did not know the drivers of or visa versa. and I only knew a few codrivers. And yes it was the late Jean-Louis Dumont, not Jean-Claude.
16th June 2007, 21:58
Juha

There's also Jean-Michel Dumont, but that's his son.

In 85 Dumont drove the second Belga Porsche. The Nissan he drove in 83 was driven by Roothaert, and Jean-Louis was supposed to finetune the car, but they never got to do that. After his crash hisplace in the team was taken by Reginster from the Haspengouw on. The car he drove was a new bodyshell with the internals of the crashed car. The Gaban Porsche that Reginster drove before was then hired to Francis Vincent at Ypres, Guy Hendrickx (Bianch rally) and then driven by Pascal Gaban at the Condroz.

Here are the retirement reasons for Spa 85:
Demuth - eletrical problems
Snijers - ignition faillure
Airikka - transmission
Droogmans - crash
Colsoul - crash
Eklund - ignition faillure
Dumont - taken out of the rally by oganisers
Roothaert - crash

Demuth was leading by 20 minutes before his car let him down three stages before the end. Waldegard (who'd spent 15 minutes stuck in the snow) took over and finished six minutes ahead of Duez who had a lot of punctures.
16th June 2007, 23:11
FAL

Thanks Juha for reminding me of that year. Both Belga 911s in 85 were RAS Sport cars? Is that correct? I had forgotten who was in the Gaban car after Snijers moved to the 037 for 85. Jose Lareppe's Ascona was his new white GpA car wasn't it? (he was using his old Kadett GTE and then a dark red Manta in the National rounds wasn't he? Was Michel Dumoulin the quick young driver in a (dark blue) RS2000 (a Gp1 spec car re-homologated into GpB) or am I thinking of someone else?
I don't have any of the copies of Turbo I bought in Belgium at the time and I only did one of the Open Championship rounds in 85 (Wallonie - my only International event non-finish as a driver!).
17th June 2007, 10:43
Juha

Yes, both owned by RAS. They were then sold off to Marc Soulet. Reginster drove one of them in smaller rallies in the late 80s.

The Bastos Porsche (registerend UL 212, the same as the older Porsche in 83) was hired by Reginster for 85 sponsored by Alligator. Pascal Gaban drove another Porsche, DRL 970, in the national championship but I don't think it was a real work Porsche. Reginster used the car at Spa (11th), the national rally of Hannut (1st), Circuit des Ardennes (2nd), TAC rally (crash) and finished third at the Rally de Wallonie. Then RAS wanted them to drive their second car so the Gaban Porsche was then used by Pascal Gaban at the Haspengouw, he broke the gearbox. Francis Vincent (codriven by Willy Lux) hired it for Ypres and crashed it. Then Guy Hendrickx had it for the Bianchi (3rd). At the Condroz, Gaban retired. He did become national champion.

José Lareppe did use the white Ascona but I don't know what he used in national rallies.

The Spectacular blue Escort was Dumoulin who ran out of money during the season.

Who were you codriving? And in what car?
17th June 2007, 22:08
FAL

Thanks Juha! I was driving not co-driving, in an Escort very similar to the Dumoulin car, which is why I can judge how good he was - it was embarrassing to us how quick he went! When the helicopter supporting the Snijers Lancia brought down the telephone wires on one Wallonie stage and it was delayed, I got the chance to see his driving, as that stage had two laps and cars in front passed us entering their second lap when we were in the start queue about to start the stage.
You mention Guy Hendrickx - my service crew dashed to Charleroi from Namur (where we were staying in Simeon Delbruyere's hotel at Wepion) the day before Wallonie to get two new Michelins from him when we had a puncture in practice. He had done the RAC Rally the year before, as we had.
18th June 2007, 11:37
Giorgio

Belgium

Someone knows the dates ? (day, month, year)

1965 - 12 Heures d'Huy
1972 - 1° Haspengouw Rally
1973 - 2° Haspengouw Rally
1974 - 3° Haspengouw Rally
1980 - 12 Heures de Tielt
1982 - TAC Rally
1983 - TAC Rally
1983 - Rally de Namur
1983 - Rally de Andenne
1984 - TAC Rally
1986 - 3° Rally de Wallonie
1987 - 4° Rally de Wallonie
1988 - Rally de Hannut
1988 - TAC Rally
1989 - 6° Rally de Wallonie
1990 - 7° Rally de Wallonie
1991 - 8° Rally de Wallonie
1992 - 9° Rally de Wallonie
1993 - 10° Rally de Wallonie
1994 - 11° Rally de Wallonie
1995 - 12° Rally de Wallonie
1996 - 13° Rally de Wallonie
1997 - 14° Rally de Wallonie
1998 - 15° Rally de Wallonie

Thanks in advance

Giorgio
18th June 2007, 12:16
Juha

1972 - 1° Haspengouw Rally
1973 - 2° Haspengouw Rally
1974 - 3° Haspengouw Rally
You've just chosen the only editions for which I don't have the dates. :D Wasn't the rally named "Omloop van Haspengouw" then? Because it was in 75-79 the name changed in 1980.
I'm still looking for the results from 72 and 74, those are the only years of which I'm missing the top 10 resultats (other stuff is welcome too).

1982 - TAC Rally, 4-5 april
1983 - TAC Rally, 16-17 april

1983 - Rally de Namur
Should be "Ronde du nouveau Namur"
23-24 april

1983 - Rally de Andenne
Should be "500 kilometres d'Andenne"
9-10 april

Namur and Andenne merged into the Rally de Wallonie.

1984 - TAC Rally, 14-15 april
1986 - 3° Rally de Wallonie, 30-31 may, 1 june
1987 - 4° Rally de Wallonie, 1-2 may
1988 - Rally de Hannut, 26-27 march
1988 - TAC Rally, 9-10 april
1989 - 6° Rally de Wallonie, 2-4 june

If you need any results, just ask. ;)
18th June 2007, 13:34
FAL

and to confirm one of those dates:
18th June 2007, 14:10
Juha

Did you finish 24th?
18th June 2007, 19:43
Giorgio

Very Thanks, Juha!

Giorgio
18th June 2007, 19:44
Giorgio

Tour de Corse 1969

If someone is interested.....

Tour de Corse 1969
Retirements
Source: Auto Italiana 1969

Maublanc - Dreyfus (BMW 2002 TI) gear crash - (Ocana)
Heidi Utz - Margaret Lang (BMW 1600 TI) accident - (Guitera)
Springer - Miersch (BMW 2002 TI) accident - (Guitera)
Trautmann - Trautmann (Lancia Fulvia 1300 HF) breakage of the accelerator control - (Guitera)
Barbasio - Mannucci (Lancia Fulvia HF 1600) breakage carburettors control - (Bocognano)
Pinto - Santonacci (Alfa Romeo 2000) puncturing and front-wheel suspension breakage - (Guitera)
Greder - Murac (Opel Kadett) breakage of the differential gear (Col de la Bavella)
Munari - Davenport (Lancia Fulvia Spider FM) puncturing - (Kamiesh - Zonza)
Carello - Oberti (Fiat 125 S) accident
Henry - Stalder (Renault Alpine 1300) accident - (Col de Vergio)
Vinatier - Jacob (Alpine 1600) accident - (Talasani)
Swietlik - Couturier (NSU 1200 TT) accident - (Sartène)
Darniche - Demange (NSU 1200 TT) puncturing and front-wheel suspension breakage
Alesi - Brunet (NSU TTS) posterior-wheel suspension breakage
Emeric - Mahé (NSU TTS) front-wheel suspension breakage
Jacquemin - Vloeberg (Renault Gordini) accident
Andruet - Ecot (Renault Alpine 1600) accident
Haxhe - Delferrier (Daf 55) fuel pump
Rattazzi - Montezemolo (Fiat 125 S) motor oil leak (problems of the greasing)
Sola - Barletta (NSU 1200 TT) accident
Barailler - Fayel (Alfa Romeo 2000) clutch breakage
De Castelli - De Castelli (Mini Cooper S proto) accident
Chasseuil - Derolland (Porsche 911) accident
Mikkola - Palm (Ford Escort 2300 proto) alternator
18th June 2007, 20:22
Giorgio

Juha, for Haspengouw Rally i have:

1972 - Rudolf Moortgat - "Andy" (Ford Escort)
1974 - Willy Plas - Maes (Renault Gordini)

Best regards

Giorgio
18th June 2007, 22:37
FAL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juha

Did you finish 24th?

I think it was 22nd (24th on Tour of Flanders 83 and 19th in 82).

Confirmation of dates of Wallonie 85 :
18th June 2007, 22:47
FAL

Just noticed that Wallonie 85 plate doesn't have the days and month on it! Can't recall another rally that didn't!
19th June 2007, 08:49
Juha

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAL

I think it was 22nd (24th on Tour of Flanders 83 and 19th in 82).

Confirmation of dates of Wallonie 85 :

It can't have been 22nd because that was Michel Luxen in a Corolla. ;) At the Tour of Flanders you were 21st.
19th June 2007, 09:32
dkone

Hi all,

sorry for the late reply, but thanks a lot for all your help with the Boucles de Spa 85 results.

Daniel
19th June 2007, 10:29
Giorgio

Someone knows.......

7 aprile 2001
Belgium

Rally des Hautes Fagnes
Start: Jalhay
Finish: Jalhay

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally cup - west - coeff. 5
belgian rally championship

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? (????)

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27 aprile 2002
Belgium

Rally des Hautes Fagnes
Start: Liège
Finish: Liège

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship
belgian rally championship - division two
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? (????)

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15-16 giugno 2002
Belgium

12 Heures de Braine le Comte
Start: Liège
Finish: Liège

km. ????
groups N - A
belgian rally championship - division two
national rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? (????)

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19-20 ottobre 2002
Belgium

2° BW Rally
Start: Tubize, Bruxelles
Finish: Tubize

km. 202
groups N - A
championnat provincial du brabant et du hainaut
challenge saxo

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? (????)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio
19th June 2007, 17:01
Juha

I have all of those, I'll post them tonight. ;)
19th June 2007, 20:39
Juha

30-31/5/1997 - 14° Rally de Wallonie
15-16/5/1998 - 15° Rally de Wallonie

7 aprile 2001 - Rally des Hautes Fagnes
27 aprile 2002 - Rally des Hautes Fagnes
They were both cancelled. I can't find anything on the calendars or in my books. Because of it, the Saxo challenge lacked 1 rally. So they decided to do the BW rally.

2° BW Rally
Start: Tubize (not at Brussels)
Finish: Tubize

km. 202
They didn't use the group A/N system so no need to mention that.
Championnat provincial du Brabant et du Hainaut
Challenge saxo

Results:
1. 00:56:26 Xavier BOUCHE - Pierre BOURGUIGNON (Evo 7)
2. 00:56:54 Patrick FASTRE - Roger MISSAIRE (Audi Quattro)
3. 00:57:04 Olivier COLLARD - Bernard LION (Saxo kit car)
4. 00:58:21 Davy VANNESTE - Denis SQUEDIN (Saxo challenge)
5. 00:58:24 Stephane PETITJEAN - MOUTON
6. 00:58:29 Bernd CASIER - Frederic MICLOTTE
7. 00:58:39 Fabrice HAENTJENS - Johan JALET
8. 00:58:43 Dominique GENTEN - Yves SCHOTSMANS
9. 00:59:12 Gilles SCHAMMEL (lux) - Jean-Paul SCHAMMEL (lux)
10. 00:59:16 Thierry BRAGARD - Guy BURNIAT

Everyone from 4th place up to the 10th drove a Saxo.

The Challenge was won by Bragard that year, who had so many sponsors (150) that he didn't have enough space on his car to put everyone's sticker. :D
19th June 2007, 23:38
Carles Bosch 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giorgio

If someone is interested.....

Tour de Corse 1969
Retirements
Source: Auto Italiana 1969

Maublanc - Dreyfus (BMW 2002 TI) gear crash - (Ocana)
Heidi Utz - Margaret Lang (BMW 1600 TI) accident - (Guitera)
Springer - Miersch (BMW 2002 TI) accident - (Guitera)
Trautmann - Trautmann (Lancia Fulvia 1300 HF) breakage of the accelerator control - (Guitera)
Barbasio - Mannucci (Lancia Fulvia HF 1600) breakage carburettors control - (Bocognano)
Pinto - Santonacci (Alfa Romeo 2000) puncturing and front-wheel suspension breakage - (Guitera)
Greder - Murac (Opel Kadett) breakage of the differential gear (Col de la Bavella)
Munari - Davenport (Lancia Fulvia Spider FM) puncturing - (Kamiesh - Zonza)
Carello - Oberti (Fiat 125 S) accident
Henry - Stalder (Renault Alpine 1300) accident - (Col de Vergio)
Vinatier - Jacob (Alpine 1600) accident - (Talasani)
Swietlik - Couturier (NSU 1200 TT) accident - (Sartène)
Darniche - Demange (NSU 1200 TT) puncturing and front-wheel suspension breakage
Alesi - Brunet (NSU TTS) posterior-wheel suspension breakage
Emeric - Mahé (NSU TTS) front-wheel suspension breakage
Jacquemin - Vloeberg (Renault Gordini) accident
Andruet - Ecot (Renault Alpine 1600) accident
Haxhe - Delferrier (Daf 55) fuel pump
Rattazzi - Montezemolo (Fiat 125 S) motor oil leak (problems of the greasing)
Sola - Barletta (NSU 1200 TT) accident
Barailler - Fayel (Alfa Romeo 2000) clutch breakage
De Castelli - De Castelli (Mini Cooper S proto) accident
Chasseuil - Derolland (Porsche 911) accident
Mikkola - Palm (Ford Escort 2300 proto) alternator

Hi, Giorgio,

a few of these were not retirements:

- René & Claudine Trautmann, 18th o/a
- Sandro Munari & John Davenport, 13th o/a
- Jean Vinatier / Jean-François Jacob & Jean-Marie Jacquemin / Jacques Vloebergs, both finishers but no-classified (over time let @ the finish)
- Hannu Mikkola & Gunnar Palm, 16th o/a

Carles.
20th June 2007, 09:33
Wim_Impreza

@ Giorgio

15-16 giugno 2002
Belgium

12 Heures de Braine le Comte
Start: Liège
Finish: Liège

km. 149,7
groups N - A
belgian rally championship - division two
national rally

Results:
1. Jean-Marc Gaban - Guy Burniat (Porsche 911 RS) R12 in 1h32'24"
2. Timothy Van Parijs - Frédéric Miclotte (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo6) N4 +22"
3. Philippe Dewulf - Kris Botson (Toyota Celica Turbo 4WD) A8 +32"
20th June 2007, 11:09
Giorgio

Very thanks Juha and Wim_Impreza !

Giorgio
20th June 2007, 11:12
Giorgio

Thank you, Carles for the precise information!

Giorgio
20th June 2007, 13:25
Juha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wim_Impreza

12 Heures de Braine le Comte
Start: Liège
Finish: Liège

The rally didn't start at Liège but at Braine le Comte. Liège is 120km away from there. :D
21st June 2007, 10:18
Giorgio

Thank you Juha!

Giorgio
21st June 2007, 10:19
Giorgio

Someone knows.......

7 aprile 2001
Belgium

Rally des Hautes Fagnes
Start: Jalhay
Finish: Jalhay

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally cup - west - coeff. 5
belgian rally championship

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? (????)

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Someone knows .....

2 ottobre 1999
Belgium

?? Criterium Lucien Bianchi
Start: Beaumont
Finish: Beaumont

km. ????
groups N - A
belgian rally championship

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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11 settembre 1999
Belgium

?? Tour des Flandres
Start: ?????
Finish: ?????

km. ???
groups N - A
belgian rally championship

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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17 aprile 1998
Belgium

?? Rally des Hautes Fagnes
Start: Liège
Finish: Liège

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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13 febbraio 1998
Belgium

?? Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km.
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
international rally

Results:
1. Gregoire de Mevius - ???? ???? (Subaru Impreza WRC)
2. Patrick Snijers - ???? ???? (Ford Escort RS Cosworth)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio
21st June 2007, 12:24
januszsz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carles Bosch 2

Hi, Giorgio,

a few of these were not retirements:

- René & Claudine Trautmann, 18th o/a
- Sandro Munari & John Davenport, 13th o/a
- Jean Vinatier / Jean-François Jacob & Jean-Marie Jacquemin / Jacques Vloebergs, both finishers but no-classified (over time let @ the finish)
- Hannu Mikkola & Gunnar Palm, 16th o/a

Carles.

Do you know Carles, who else was finisher but not classified. I had an information that 27 cars finished the rally but 22 were classified.
Regards
Janusz
21st June 2007, 12:41
Juha

7 aprile 2001, Belgium
Rally des Hautes Fagnes

I've already said it was cancelled. :D

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2-3 ottobre 1999
Belgium

30e Criterium Lucien Bianchi
Start: Beaumont
Finish: Beaumont

1. Kris Princen / Dany Colebunders - Renault Maxi Mégane
2. Pieter Tsjoen / Philippe Droeven - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 6
3. Larry Cols / Yasmine Gérard - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 5
4. Dominique Jullien / Mohimont - Mitsubishi Carisma
5. Pascal Gaban / Eddy Chevaillier - Citroën Saxo kit car
6. Francis Leroy / Ellie Rasson - Citroën Saxo kit car
7. François Duval / Bruno Brissart (fr) - Citroën Saxo
8. Cédric Poncelet / Benoit Mahaut - Subaru Impreza
9. Fabrice Mikels / Pierre Bourguignon - Citroën Saxo
10. Eric Cunin / Pestiat - Opel Astra GSI

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11-12 settembre 1999
Belgium

40e Tour des Flandres
Start: Roeselare
Finish: Roeselare

Results:
1. Kris Princen / Dany Colebunders - Renault Maxi Mégane
2. Gaby Goudezeune / Filip Depelsemaeker - Subaru Impreza WRC
3. Pascal Gaban / Eddy Chevaillier - Citroën Saxo kit car
4. Pieter Tsjoen / Steven Vergalle - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 6
5. Matthias Viaene / Davie Meert - Mazda 323 GTR
6. Ries Huisman (nl) / Bart Van Riemsdijk (nl) - Ford Escort WRC
7. Pascal André / Eric Van Rillaer - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 5
8. Francis Leroy / Bernard Lion - Citroën Saxo kit car
9. Seys / Dominique Dooms - Renault Clio
10. Godfried Dekeyser / Patrick Dumortier - Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 3

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11 aprile 1998
Belgium

13e Rally des Hautes Fagnes
Start: Jalhay
Finish: Jalhay

Results:
1. Freddy Loix / SvenSmeets - Toyota Corolla WRC
2. Henrik Lundgaard / Freddy Pedersen - Toyota Celica GT4
3. Jean-Pierre Van de Wauwer / Jean Vanderschueren - Peugeot 306 Maxi
4. Gaby Goudezeune / Filip Depelsemaeker - Mazda 323 GTR
5. Kris Pincen / Lily Genten - Renault Mégane Maxi
6. Pascal Gaban / Eddy chevaillier - Citroën Saxo kit car
7. Hans Stacey (nl) / Daniël Sonck - Mitsubishi Carisma GT
8. David Loix / Cédric Pirotte - Renault Clio Maxi
9. Ries Huisman (nl) / Han Hoogendoorn (nl) - Ford Escort WRC
10. Arnaud Clause (lux) / Carlo Goeres (lux) - Opel Corsa GSI

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13-14 febbraio 1998
Belgium

41e Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

Results:
1. Gregoire de Mevius - Jean-Marc Fortin (Subaru Impreza WRC)
2. Patrick Snijers - Dany Colebunders (Ford Escort WRC)
3. Jean-Pierre Van de Wauwer / Jean Vanderschueren (Peugeot 306 Max)
4. Kris Pincen / Lily Genten - Renault Mégane Maxi
5. "Didi junior" / Pascal Lopes (Mitsubish Carisma GT)
6. Pascal Gaban / Eddy Chevallier (Citroën Saxo kit car)
7. Kurt Heckters / André Leyh (Mitsubishi Carisma GT)
8. Rainer Feltes / Zinnen (Ford Escort Cosworth)
9. Olivier Collard / Etienne Monseur (Citroën Saxo kit car)
10. David Loix / Cédric Pirotte (Renault Clio Maxi)
21st June 2007, 15:51
Giorgio

Very fast, Juha ! Thank you...

Best regards

Giorgio
21st June 2007, 18:24
Giorgio

Belgium

Someone knows.......

7 novembre 1997
Belgium

?? Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
belgian rally championship
international rally

Results:
1. Bruno Thiry - ???? ???? (Subaru Impreza WRC)
2. Freddy Loix - ???? ???? (Toyota Celica 4WD)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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30-31 maggio 1997
Belgium

14° Rally de Wallonie
Start: Jambes
Finish: Jambes

km. ????
groups N - A
belgian rally championship
national rally

Results:
1. ???? Verhoestraete - ???? de Cank (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
2. ???? Heckters - ???? Genten (Mitsubishi Lancer)
3. ???? van Woensel - ???? Davie Meert (Mitsubishi Lancer)

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28 marzo 1997
Belgium

?? Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 2
international rally

Results:
1. Bert de Jong - ???? ???? (Ford Escort RS Cosworth)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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15 febbraio 1997
Belgium

40° Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
international rally

Results:
1. Renaud Verreydt - Jean-Marie Jamar (Toyota Celica GT4)
2. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Ford Escort Cosworth)
3. Gregoire de Mevius - ???? ???? (Ford Escort Cosworth)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio
21st June 2007, 19:25
Wim_Impreza

30-31 maggio 1997
Belgium

14° Rally de Wallonie
Start: Jambes
Finish: Jambes

km. ????
groups N - A
belgian rally championship
national rally

Results:
1. Laurent Verhoestraete - Daniël de Canck (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
2. Kurt Heckters - Lilly Genten (Mitsubishi Lancer)
3. Chris van Woensel - Davie Meert (Mitsubishi Lancer)
21st June 2007, 22:40
Carles Bosch 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by januszsz

Do you know Carles, who else was finisher but not classified. I had an information that 27 cars finished the rally but 22 were classified.
Regards
Janusz

You're right, Janusz. The 5 teams finishers but not classified, were the following:

#2, 4277 GN 76, Jean-Marie Jacquemin / Jean-Jacques Vloebergs, Renault 8 Gordini, Group 1 (Class 1001-1300cc)
#5, Berman / Bertocci, Fiat 124, Group 1 (Class 1001-1300cc)
#18, Philippe Conso / Pierre Papazian, NSU 1200 TT, Groups 2&5 (Class 1001-1300cc)
#59, 4946 GN 76, Jean Vinatier / Jean-François Jacob, Alpine-Renault A110 1600 S, Groups 4&6 (Class 1301-1600cc)
#66, Pierre Di Barbazza / Antonini, Alpine-Renault A110, Groups 4&6 (CLass 1301-1600cc)

Carles.
22nd June 2007, 05:56
Juha

8-9 novembre 1997
Belgium

24e Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 2
belgian rally championship
international rally

Results:
1. Bruno Thiry - Stephane Prevot (Subaru Impreza WRC)
2. Freddy Loix - Sven Smeets (Toyota Celica 4WD)
3. Patrick Snijers - Dany Colebunders (Ford Escort WRC)

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30-31 maggio 1997
Belgium

14° Rally de Wallonie
Start: Jambes
Finish: Jambes

km. ????
groups N - A
belgian rally championship
national rally

Results:
1. Laurent Verhoestraete - Daniël de Cank (Ford Sierra Cosworth 4x4)
2. Kurt Heckters - Lily Genten (Mitsubishi Lancer evo 3)
3. Chris van Woensel - Davie Meert (Mitsubishi Lancer evo 3)

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28 marzo 1997
Belgium

47e Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 2
international rally

Results:
1. Bert de Jong - Ton Hillen (Ford Escort Cosworth)
2. Laurent Verhoestraete - Daniël de Cank (Ford Sierra Cosworth 4x4)
3. Hans Stacey - Mark van den Brand (Ford Escort Cosworth

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14-15 febbraio 1997
Belgium

40° Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. 5
international rally

Results:
1. Renaud Verreydt - Jean-Manuel Jamar (Toyota Celica GT4)
2. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Ford Escort Cosworth)
3. Gregoire de Mevius - Jean-Marc Fortin (Ford Escort Cosworth)

It's Jean-Manuel Jamar, and not Jean-Marie or Jean-Marc is it's being mentioned everywhere.
22nd June 2007, 18:12
Giorgio

Very Thanks, Juha!

Giorgio
24th June 2007, 11:33
Giorgio

Someone knows.......

10 novembre 1996
Belgium

23° Rally du Condroz
Start: Huy
Finish: Huy

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
belgian rally championship

Results:
1. Freddy Loix - ???? (Toyota Celica GT4)
2. Renaud Verreydt - ???? (Toyota Celica GT4)
3. Bruno Thiry - ???? (Ford Escort Cosworth)

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?? / ?? / 1996 - 13° Rally de Wallonie

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29 marzo 1996
Belgium

46° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Ford Escort Cosworth)
2. Gregoire de Mevius - ???? ???? (Ford Escort Cosworth)
3. Bernard Munster - ???? ???? (Renault Clio Maxi)

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?? / ?? / 1995 - 45° Circuit des Ardennes

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23 febbraio 1996
Belgium

39° Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
international rally

Results:
1. Gregoire de Mevius - ???? ???? (Ford Escort Cosworth)
2. Freddy Loix - ???? ???? (Toyota Celica GT4)
3. Renaud Verreydt - ???? ???? (Toyota Celica GT4)

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?? / ?? / 1995 - 38° Boucles de Spa

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Thanks in advance

Giorgio
24th June 2007, 13:00
Dalmi

I need some results concerning the Porsche 911 R or 911 S in spanish championship during the period 1967-1973. Does somebody knows -perhaps you Carles- wich were the wins of this cars in the spanish championship with Palomo, Doncel, Gargallo, Ruiz-Giménez... drivers

Thanks in advance
24th June 2007, 16:12
ettelbruck

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giorgio

Someone knows.......

23 febbraio 1996
Belgium

39° Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
international rally

Results:
1. Gregoire de Mevius - ???? ???? (Ford Escort Cosworth)
2. Freddy Loix - ???? ???? (Toyota Celica GT4)
3. Renaud Verreydt - ???? ???? (Toyota Celica GT4)

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?? / ?? / 1995 - 38° Boucles de Spa

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Thanks in advance

Giorgio

38 Boucles de Spa 17-19.2.1995

39 Boucles de Spa 24-25.2.1996
276,84km

co-drivers:
for de Mevius: Jean-Marc Fortin
Loix: Sven Smeets
Verreydt: Jean-Manuel Jamar

unforgettable Spa with snow!
24th June 2007, 16:47
jrally

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalmi

I need some results concerning the Porsche 911 R or 911 S in spanish championship during the period 1967-1973. Does somebody knows -perhaps you Carles- wich were the wins of this cars in the spanish championship with Palomo, Doncel, Gargallo, Ruiz-Giménez... drivers

Thanks in advance

Here those I know, Dalmi !

1967
Invierno - Juan Fernandez (911 S)
Costa Brava - Juan Fernandez-Jose Maria Fernandez (911 S)
Oviedo - Ben heiderich-Ricardo Muñoz (911)
Gerona - Juan Fernandez-Cesar Nattalicio (911 S)

1968
Orense - Eladio Doncel-Carlos Llagostera (Porsche 911 S)
España - Pauli Toivonen-Matti Tiukkanen (911 T)
Firestone - Eladio Doncel-Jaime Parejo (porsche 911 R)
Costa del Sol - Juan Fernandez-L. Madrazo (911 R)

1969
Costa Brava - Estanislao Reverter-Julio Leal (911 R)
Luis de Baviera - Jaime Lazcano-Ricardo Muñoz (911 R)
Orense - José Maria Palomo-Ramón Serra (911 R)
Firestone - Marc Etchebers-Enrique de Sauto (911 S)
2000 Viratjes - José Maria Palomo-José Adell (911 R)

1970
Vasco Navarro - Marc Etchebers-P. Claustress (911 T)
Luis de Baviera - Estanislao Reverter-Julio Leal (911 R)
Orense - Albrto Ruiz-Gimenez - Rafael Castañeda (911 S)
Oviedo - Eladio Doncel-José Antonio Conde (911 S)
Barcelona-Andorra - Eladio Doncel-Juan Rasilla (911 S)
Firestone - Eladio Doncel-Ricardo Antolin (911 S)
Costa del Sol - José Manuel Lencina-J. Mato (911 S)

1971
Fallas - Alberto Ruiz-Gimenez - Javier Bueno (911 S)
Costa Brava - José Manuel Lencina-A. Gutierrez (911 S)
Luis de Baviera - Alberto Ruiz-Gimenez - Javier Bueno (911 S)
Salmón - José Manuel Lencina-Antonio Mantecon (911 S)
500 Km Nocturnos - Alberto Ruiz-Gimenez - Javier Bueno (911 S)
Rioja - Alberto Ruiz-Gimenez - Javier Bueno (911 S)
Orense - Eladio Doncel-Juan Antonio Conde (911 S)
Cid - Eladio Doncel-Gutierrez (911 S)
Rias Bajas - Eladio Doncel-Juan Antonio Conde (911 S)
Bosch - Alberto Ruiz-Gimenez - Ricardo Muñoz (911 S)
Oviedo - Alberto Ruiz-Gimenez - Juan António Conde (911 S)
Sherry - Julio Gargallo-Jaime Ramon (914/6)
Firestone - Jean Egretaud-Enrique de Sauto (911 S)
Barcelona-Andorra - Alberto Ruiz-Gimenez - 'Artemi' (911 S)
2000 Viratjes - Jean Egretaud-Jean Boissonet (911 S)
Costa del Sol - Alberto Ruiz-Gimenez - Juan Antonio Conde (911 S)

1972
Lana - Eladio Doncel-Antonio Mantecon (911 S)
Vasco Navarro - Eladio Doncel-Daniel Ferrater (911 S)
Rioja - Eladio Doncel-Antonio Mantecon (911 S)
Bosch - Julio Gargallo-Jaime Ramon (911 S 2.5)
Sherry-José Manuel Lencina-'Picchi' (911 S)
Restinga - Marc Etchebers-Christine Etchebers (911 S)

1973
Montseny-Guillerias - Juan Aleix-S. Marginet (911 S)
Baix Ebre - Ramon 'Tito' Serra-Jorge Viñas (911 S)

Hope it helps
Regards
jorge
24th June 2007, 17:33
Carles Bosch 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalmi

I need some results concerning the Porsche 911 R or 911 S in spanish championship during the period 1967-1973. Does somebody knows -perhaps you Carles- wich were the wins of this cars in the spanish championship with Palomo, Doncel, Gargallo, Ruiz-Giménez... drivers

Thanks in advance

I've found a few, 'though there were more, for sure:

'67, 15º Rallye Costa Brava, Joan & Josep Mª Fernández (911)

'68, 2º Rallye de Orense, Eladio Doncel & Carlos Llagostera (911S)
'68, 16º Rallye de España, Pauli Toivonen & Urpo Vihervaara (911T)
'68, 2º Rallye Firestone, Eladio Doncel & Jaime Parejo (911S)
'68, 3er Rallye Costa del Sol, Joan Fernández & "Artemi" -Artemio Eche- (911R)

'69, 17º Rallye Costa Brava, Estanislao Reverter & Julio Leal (911R)
'69, 3er Rallye de Orense, José Mª Palomo & R. Serra (911R)
'69, 7º Rallye Rias Bajas, José Mª Palomo & ¿Pepito Adell?(911R)
'69, 3er rallye Firestone, Marc Etchebers & Enrique Sauto (911S)
'69, 11º Rallye 2000 Virajes, José Mª Palomo & ¿Pepito Adell? (911R)

'70, 11º Rallye Vasco-Navarro, Marc Etchebers & XX (911T)
'70, Critérium Luis de Baviera, Estanislao Reverter & Julio Leal (911R)
'70, 4º Rallye de Orense, Alberto Ruiz-Giménez & R. Castañeda (911S)
'70, 2º Rallye del Sherry, Alberto Ruiz-Giménez & R. Castañeda (911S)
'70, 12º Rallye 2000 Virajes, Eladio Doncel & Juan Carlos García de la Rasilla (911S)
'70, 6º Rallye Barcelona-Andorra, Eladio Doncel & Juan Carlos Garcia de la Rasilla (911S)
'70, 4º Rallye Firestone, Eladio Doncel & Ricardo Antolín (911S)
'70, 5º Rallye Costa del Sol, José Manuel Lencina & J. Mato (911S)

'71, 19º Rallye Costa Brava, José Manuel Lencina & A. Gutiérrez (911S)
'71, 5º Rallye de Orense, Eladio Doncel & Juan A. Conde (911S)
'71, 5º Rallye Bosch, Alberto Ruiz-Giménez & Ricardo Muñoz (911S)
'71, 8º Rallye Premio Ciudad de Oviedo, Alberto Ruiz-Giménez & Juan A. Conde (911S)
'71, 5º Rallye Firestone, Jean Égretaud & Enrique Sauto (911S ¿2.2?)
'71, 7º Rallye Barcelona-Andorra, Alberto Ruiz-Giménez & "Artemi" -Artemio Eche- (911S)
'71, 13er Rallye 2000 Virajes, Jean Égretaud & Enrique Sauto (911S 2.2)

'72, 13er Rallye Vasco-Navarro, Eladio Doncel & Daniel de Ferrater (911S)
'72, 5º Rallye de la Lana, Eladio Doncel & A. Mantecón (911S)
'72, 2º Critérium de Rioja, Eladio Doncel & A. Mantecón (911S)
'72, 6º Rallye Bosch, Julio Gargallo & ramón (911S 2.4)
'72, 4º Rallye Sherry, José Manuel Lencina & "Pichi" (911S)

'73, 3er Critérium Montseny-Guilleries, Joan Aleix & Marginet (911S)

Carles.

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