Kenotec Ypres Rally 23-25 June 2016

I can say for sure that there is going to be some wind :D

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Originally Posted by Jarek Z

They will not last long. You better go to the first stage to see them ;)

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Now you are being mean :(
There are plenty of them that hold together just fine these days... you are just going by the reputation of the old Saintelocs ;)

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Originally Posted by Jasper

Princen no major problems this year. 5 rally's, one retirement (crash).

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Also Ucci's car works good, so does the one bought by Sebastien Loeb Racing... and probably loads more that I don't know about...

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Originally Posted by itix

Now you are being mean :(
There are plenty of them that hold together just fine these days... you are just going by the reputation of the old Saintelocs.

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Plenty? I would say You can count them on fingers of one hand...

I'm not so sure... If you check ewrc they don't seem to have much more problems than the Skoda and the Fiesta.

There is for instance one in sweden that usually runs reliably. Uccis has almost never had a problem etc etc.

I am pretty sure that the problematic ones are those that aren't upgraded to latest spec.

Princen's one was the very first Evo one and it hasn't run flawless so far. Also I heard they had plenty of problems also in testing. Let's see in Ypres.

I meant pre Evo, with the homologated joker parts.

Can't say much about the Evo as there are too few in existence. Time will tell.

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Originally Posted by itix

Now you are being mean :(
There are plenty of them that hold together just fine these days... you are just going by the reputation of the old Saintelocs ;)

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Am I being mean? In the last 3 seasons Peugeot 208 R5 managed to win just 4 ERC rounds out ouf 25. And the last win was over 1 year ago when Craig Breen was fastest in the 2015 Azores Rally.

Let's take a quick look at the statistics - number of wins:

ERC 2016
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Ford Fiesta R5 - 2 wins
Skoda Fabia R5 - 1 win
Citroen DS3 R5 - 1 win
Peugeot 208 R5 - 0 wins

ERC 2015
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Ford Fiesta R5 - 4 wins
Peugeot 208 R5 - 3 wins
Skoda Fabia R5 - 2 wins
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X - 1 win

ERC 2014
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Ford Fiesta RRC - 4 wins
Škoda Fabia S2000 - 4 wins
Ford Fiesta R5 - 1 win
Peugeot 208 R5 - 1 win
Mini John Cooper Works S2000 - 1 win

Don't get me wrong, I like Peugeot 208 T16, but numbers don't lie...

Well that escalated quickly:


So who, from the locals, do we think will be ERC registered to compete in qualifying and run at the front?

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Originally Posted by dodge33cymru

So who, from the locals, do we think will be ERC registered to compete in qualifying and run at the front?

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Maybe some of them:
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc-registrations-hit-100/