another school shooting in U.S. of A. :(

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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce

Fousto, I just don't know what the answer is. I might take a different view in that I don't think the guy was a coward - I think he had very serious mental issues, something that I thought even before I saw his picture and read about his Aspergers syndrome. I do have to ask here :was his problem magnified by playing violent computer games? Because the guy was dressed in combat fatigues and he had three very powerful and efficient firearms.

Like everyone here, I do feel for the families. Sadly, the mass shooting problem in the USA will not be resolved - not in my lifetime. :(

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I will certainly agree that a intense study regarding video games needs to be done. Our children start very violent games at such a young age. I never allowed them
with my child or the child of my long time girlfriend. Golf, Basketball, Football and auto racing is all they got. I can't help but believe they do contribute to the violent nature
of our kids. Are the parents to blame?? i also did some serious gun training and they never bothered with firearms except of a 410 shotgun for hunting birds and even that was
very rare. I would think hours and hours of violent video games are not healthy for our children. The industry hides behind freedom of speech and parent look the other way

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Originally Posted by Roamy

I will certainly agree that a intense study regarding video games needs to be done. Our children start very violent games at such a young age. I never allowed them with my child or the child of my long time girlfriend. Golf, Basketball, Football and auto racing is all they got. I can't help but believe they do contribute to the violent nature
of our kids.

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Clearly, though, millions of people play them with no ill effect.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Consider this. Why on earth should such draconian steps ever be necessary? The notion of such security being required at European schools is laughable. Why? Because, despite isolated (far more so than in the US) tragic incidents, it is not called for. If it is in the US, you have a different problem than just school security, surely?

Your response is rather like suggesting that women should wear suits of armour to prevent rape.

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WEll growing up I never thought I would see airport security. Obviously the world has changed and we have to deal with those changes. I can tell you in this country probably one of the most
rapidly growing areas is in fact security. I wonder what they do in israel. If you figure out how to collect all the guns let us know. But I assume metal detectors is probably much cheaper and more realistic. If I had school age children I would have no problem with very enhanced security.

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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce

Guns are for killing, simple as that. Maybe someone can explain to me why nearly half the population of the USA feel the need to kill.

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The problem is that most law abiding citizens would rather be the shooter than the shootee

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Originally Posted by ioan

You are complaining a terrorist attack to a psychopath shooting children in a school? And then you are surprised that we don't take you seriously.

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wake up ioan all the people are DEAD that is the problem

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Originally Posted by Roamy

WEll growing up I never thought I would see airport security. Obviously the world has changed and we have to deal with those changes. I can tell you in this country probably one of the most
rapidly growing areas is in fact security. I wonder what they do in israel. If you figure out how to collect all the guns let us know. But I assume metal detectors is probably much cheaper and more realistic. If I had school age children I would have no problem with very enhanced security.

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All this does is further a climate of security paranoia. It does nothing to tackle the underlying problems. The attitude that increased security is a cure-all I find immensely troubling and depressing, to say nothing of the way it has been blindly accepted, as demonstrated by your remarks.

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Originally Posted by Roamy

wake up ioan all the people are DEAD that is the problem

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No, there was clearly a problem before those people died. Otherwise, they wouldn't now be dead.

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Originally Posted by Roamy

I will certainly agree that a intense study regarding video games needs to be done. Our children start very violent games at such a young age. I never allowed them
with my child or the child of my long time girlfriend. Golf, Basketball, Football and auto racing is all they got. I can't help but believe they do contribute to the violent nature
of our kids. Are the parents to blame?? i also did some serious gun training and they never bothered with firearms except of a 410 shotgun for hunting birds and even that was
very rare. I would think hours and hours of violent video games are not healthy for our children. The industry hides behind freedom of speech and parent look the other way

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I am sure The research has already been done by our own Army and their game "America's Army." It is the entire purpose is to recruit and train underage americans for a future in the armed forces. If it didn't work I don't see the US gov funding through 3 versions over from 2002 to the present.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Clearly, though, millions of people play them with no ill effect.

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Absolutely. How discussions of who to apportion blame to after massacres always come back to video games, instead of, say, access to mental health services is completely ridiculous.

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An article about the Colombine shootings, by Marilyn Manson. Still poignant.