What did Apple actually invent?

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21st August 2012, 21:05
Mark

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Originally Posted by henners88

The camera on the iPhone is very good and the video is much better quality than on my HTC. I do have a pretty decent Canon DSLR for the poser shots but an iPhone to capture all those mishaps and 'wind smiles' would be nice lol. :D

It's often said that the best camera is the one you have with you. And for babies this is certainty the case!
21st August 2012, 21:08
CaptainRaiden

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Originally Posted by Malbec

You realise that when Pino bought his iPhone the S3 probably wasn't out on the market? Why then are you comparing the iPhone to the S3 to prove his choice wrong?

If you go back, you'll see I didn't compare it straight away to the Galaxy S3, but rather the DAC of the older Galaxy S, which had a Wolfson audio chip and came way before the 4S. Also, I mentioned the iPhone 4S wasn't considered even a top 5 music smartphone by any audiphile blog. Later was the discussion of Samsung hardware in Apple phones. But why would you pay attention to that in bash mode?

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Originally Posted by Malbec

If you go through all the Apple threads you'll find a consistent pattern. People say certain Apple products happen to be the right product to meet their needs. Yet consistently you claim you know better than they do, that they are simply wrong and throw in a couple of insults for good measure. Frankly its almost autistic in the inability to grasp that other people have different priorities and standards to yours. Maybe when you get older you'll be able to understand this....

To be quite honest, you come off as quite a patronizing person. I have never told anybody here that the Apple product they bought is useless, neither have I criticized their purchase. I make sure to illustrate Apple solely for their ridiculous markup. While I have never insulted you in this thread, you make sure to keep throwing backhanded insults throughout. If you're personally butt-hurt by any anti-Apple remarks or feel bad about your purchase, it's your problem, not mine.
21st August 2012, 21:15
Malbec

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Originally Posted by Mark

It's often said that the best camera is the one you have with you. And for babies this is certainty the case!

Yep we got a good compact camera for the baby, my DSLR is never out in time to get the best shots. Nor is my video camera.
21st August 2012, 21:17
CaptainRaiden

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Originally Posted by Malbec

Nope

So then how do you know what I'm talking about? Do you just post baseless tripe for the sake of it? You find something laughable without knowing what it's about?

A part of my job requires me to proofread/edit transcripts on my PC. Majority of the audio files are WAV. I have tried everything from Auzentech, the ASUS Xonar lineup and Creative's Recon sound cards. Each one of them made a HUGE difference in the sound quality. I finally decided on a Xonar.

One of my acquaintances runs a rock pub and blasts music at ridiculously high volume through a PC using the exact same sound card without losing a single ounce of clarity.

I'm not pretending to be an audiophile here, but any decent sound card with 7.1 speakers will make quite a sizable difference and it's far from being crap.
21st August 2012, 21:23
Malbec

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Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden

If you go back, you'll see I didn't compare it straight away to the Galaxy S3, but rather the DAC of the older Galaxy S, which had a Wolfson audio chip and came way before the 4S. Also, I mentioned the iPhone 4S wasn't considered even a top 5 music smartphone by any audiphile blog. Later was the discussion of Samsung hardware in Apple phones. But why would you pay attention to that in bash mode?

My bad.

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Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden

To be quite honest, you come off as quite a patronizing person. I have never told anybody here that the Apple product they bought is useless, neither have I criticized their purchase. I make sure to illustrate Apple solely for their ridiculous markup. While I have never insulted you in this thread, you make sure to keep throwing backhanded insults throughout. If you're personally butt-hurt by any anti-Apple remarks or feel bad about your purchase, it's your problem, not mine.

Maybe I'm patronising but perhaps you ought to ask yourself why the same criticism has been levelled at you from other posters too? Are they all patronising too?

I don't actually identify with my purchases. They aren't an extension of my personality or my ego. As I've stated previously I refuse to buy an iPhone because I disagree on principle with their business model. I don't particularly like Samsung either and I refuse to buy their products too. I still cannot for the life of me understand the point of a tablet regardless of brand.

I do take exception for being called dumb and ignorant by the likes of you for having purchased an Apple (this is a comment you made on the other Apple thread). Should I not have been?
21st August 2012, 21:26
Malbec

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Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden

So then how do you know what I'm talking about? Do you just post baseless tripe for the sake of it? You find something laughable without knowing what it's about?

A part of my job requires me to proofread/edit transcripts on my PC. Majority of the audio files are WAV. I have tried everything from Auzentech, the ASUS Xonar lineup and Creative's Recon sound cards. Each one of them made a HUGE difference in the sound quality. I finally decided on a Xonar.

One of my acquaintances runs a rock pub and blasts music at ridiculously high volume through a PC using the exact same sound card without losing a single ounce of clarity.

I'm not pretending to be an audiophile here, but any decent sound card with 7.1 speakers will make quite a sizable difference and it's far from being crap.

I'm sure all your soundcards made a tremendous difference. As does upgrading from a £50 to a £100 sound system. Fact is the sound quality will still be crap.

I'm comparing to a properly setup hi-fi system. Even the lowest separates system will leave a PC behind when it comes to sound quality. Just go to a hi-fi store and take a proper listen. I suspect you'll revise your expectations.
21st August 2012, 21:30
CaptainRaiden

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Personally, it amazes me that a discussion such as this could go on so long. As you say, different people have different needs and tastes when it comes to buying products, no matter what they might be. What is the problem others have with this?

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Originally Posted by Malbec

Maybe I'm patronising but perhaps you ought to ask yourself why the same criticism has been levelled at you from other posters too? Are they all patronising too?

I don't understand how criticizing a company somehow is misconstrued as me criticizing their customers. This way there will be no room for any more discussion on a forum. If I'm criticizing Red Bull, I am not criticizing EVERY single person who drinks a Red Bull!

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Originally Posted by Malbec

I do take exception for being called dumb and ignorant by the likes of you for having purchased an Apple (this is a comment you made on the other Apple thread). Should I not have been?

I don't think I ever generalized all Apple customers as being dumb or ignorant on this forum, only the ones that I've personally known as acquaintances or friends (the same folks who told me Apple hardware is better). I feel I've been very clear about this, and even mentioned who exactly in other threads, for ex. friend, acquaintance or a colleague.
21st August 2012, 21:38
CaptainRaiden

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Originally Posted by Malbec

I'm sure all your soundcards made a tremendous difference. As does upgrading from a £50 to a £100 sound system. Fact is the sound quality will still be crap.

Again, I'm not claiming to be an audiophile, but a top of the line Auzentech, in my experience, has proven to be as good or at least very close to a Philips hi-fi system, i.e. playing the same song from the same audio CD side-by-side. Having said that, I have no idea where Philips stands in the hi-fi hierarchy.

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Originally Posted by Malbec

I'm comparing to a properly setup hi-fi system. Even the lowest separates system will leave a PC behind when it comes to sound quality. Just go to a hi-fi store and take a proper listen. I suspect you'll revise your expectations.

Again, that's bleeding obvious and I'm quite aware of that. An add-on to a PC will never be good as a standalone system. Duh! The point I was making is that a discreet audio chip still makes things better, be it smartphone or PC.
21st August 2012, 22:50
schmenke

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Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden

At the risk of repeating myself for the nth time on this topic:

A Dell XPS with Windows 7 - $999

A Macbook Pro with Mac OS X - $1799 (Inferior hardware compared to the Dell)

Source: Amazon.com

The Macbook is obviously lined with diamonds, right?

You can repeat all you want...
Those figures compare retail costs and provide no indication of corporate mark-ups.
21st August 2012, 22:53
schmenke

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Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden

...The point I was making is that a discreet audio chip still makes things better, be it smartphone or PC.

Not to hijack this into an audio thread, but I’m not sure I agree.
As far as music is concerned, the chip is nothing more than the device that runs the algorithms that decodes digital audio files. The algorithms are identical as they are, more or less, industry standards (dobly, DTS, etc.).
A dedicated chip only ensures that audio decoding is processed independently from the main processors.

Sound quality is far more dependent on the quality of the speakers :mark:

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