Meanwhile in Vopland

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Originally Posted by schmenke

Indeed! No hunting allowed in Canada!
Thousands of hunters who trudge into the wilderness every fall who shoot game with rifles are in breach of the law. The police lie in ambush waiting to pounce on the illegal hunters, hauling them off to the courthouse, shackled, by the dozen, in the back of truck. Our courts are so congested with cases of these illegal hunters that there is no time for other trials. Our prisons are packed to the rafters with grizzly bearded man in plaid shirts and ball caps, lamenting on their backwoods misdeeds.

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I thought they were just clubbing seals.

Baby seals.

Clubs are used because rifles are illegal :)

Nah, it would be a tremendous waste if we kept talent like that locked up :D

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Originally Posted by henners88

At the end if the day the killer will have that on his conscience for the rest of his life and I'm sure when the heat of the moment had gone, he regretted his overreaction.

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Just an interesting note to this statement. Though in this case we aren't sure of the exact circumstances yet, in the case of most shootings that are determined to have been justified the shooter often deals with a great amount of trauma which is not centered around their actions, but around societies reaction to what they have done.

I'm not about to play mind reader with the facts of the shooting, but by all reports Zimmerman has been in fear for his life since shortly after the shooting, and had a bounty put on him by a racist (IMO) black group. Even if it is found he shot only in self defense in fear for his life or well being, he has already had to deal with a great deal more than most do before reaching court.

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Originally Posted by Starter

Of course her superiors did - I don't believe it was her call. It would be silly to suggest otherwise. I watched the announcement. She seemed to be very careful to tread the middle ground, which is why I'll withhold judgement on her performance.

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State prosecutor of Seminole County of Which Sanford Florida is the County Seat is an Elected Position and she has no superiors. If the Feds wanted to make an issue of it all they had to do was charge him in Federal court.

No...She did it to curry favor of the electorate.

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Originally Posted by Starter

That I don't know. It's possible they have enough evidence to support a prosecution.

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Actually the noted and extremely liberal criminal trail lawyer Alan Dershowitz doesn't believe there is any evidence.

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Dershowitz called the affidavit justifying Zimmerman’s arrest “not only thin, it’s irresponsible.” He went on to criticize the decision to charge Zimmerman for second degree murder by special prosecutor Angela Corey as being politically motivated.

“You’ve seen the affidavit of probable cause. What do you make of it,” Smerconish asked. “It won’t suffice,” Dershowitz replied without hesitation.

“Most affidavits of probable cause are very thin. This is so thin that it won’t make it past a judge on a second degree murder charge,” Dershowitz said. “There’s simply nothing in there that would justify second degree murder.”

Dershowitz said that the elements that would constitute that crime are non-existent in the affidavit. “It’s not only thin, it’s irresponsible,” said Dershowitz.

Dershowitz went on to strongly criticize Corey’s decision to move forward with the case against Zimmerman. “I think what you have here is an elected public official who made a campaign speech last night for reelection when she gave her presentation and overcharged. This case will not – if the evidence is no stronger than what appears in the probable cause affidavit – this case will result in an acquittal.”

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Read the rest here
Harvard Prof. Alan Dershowitz: Zimmerman Arrest Affidavit

I don't know if you guys watch the CSI programs where evidence is found not by hearsay or muffled audio recordings.

If this was the scenario in one of these TV series they would look into the forensic evidence of Trayvon Martin's fists to see how much is true about the "plummeting" given to Zimmerman which is the reason Zimmerman says he shot his gun in self defense. I did read a while ago that the people in charge of prepping Trayvon for his burial did not see any distinct marks in his fists, but again, that is hearsay.
I'm sure many other forensic details will appear that I'm not privy of because I am not a CSI. I'm sure all of that information will start appearing in the next phase of this process.

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Originally Posted by schmenke

Therein is a key distinction between the laws in the U.S. and elsewhere.

Under Canada’s criminal code, for example, merely the discharge of a firearm, whether someone is injured or not, is a criminal offense and subject to immediate arrest. The accused remains in custody during the investigation and is released only if no formal charges are filed.

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Yea what a crock of ***** that rule is. Keep a innocent person locked up while a bunch of jackoffs try and create a case. Well it is not as bad as the laws south of the border where you remain jailed until trial or if you are rich enough you can bribe your way out. In the case of Zimmerman if they don't have a case they will manufacture one just to avoid the "Free shopping Spree" at the local walmart.

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Originally Posted by Roamy

Yea what a crock of ***** that rule is. Keep a innocent person locked up while a bunch of jackoffs try and create a case. ....

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Well, there has to be reasonable cause for the arrest in the first place. But, Zimmerman certainly would have been arrested.

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Originally Posted by schmenke

Well, there has to be reasonable cause for the arrest in the first place. But, Zimmerman certainly would have been arrested.

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Well I think the prison business would be very good for Canada. You have the land available to build prisons - we are over crowded and want to incarcerate everyone we can. You guys could charge a good fee for each person and do quite well.

Not a bad idea.
Send us your malcontents and we’ll send them to Toronto. After a couple of months they’ll be screaming to get out :p : .