4 degrees of camber

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Completely agree. That must be why McLaren asked for a new set of tyres :rolleyes: :laugh: :rotflmao:

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When did McLaren ask for a new set of tyres and who did they ask for a new set of tyres, Daniel?

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

Whitmarsh said they were confident their tyres would last and that's why they didn't get up in arms over it. Tyres can blow up for no reason at anytime but it's all about ones own confidence level. I have no idea what McLaren's camber angle was so it's specualation to say whether they were over it or not. I'd imagine they weren't and if they were, I'd imagine that they did so confident that their tyres would last which is why they weren't bothered about it.

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Not quite true, McLaren were more bothered about the issue than other teams that ran a more conservative camber.

The difference is, as already pointed out, McLaren stuck to Pirelli's recommendations while RBR didn't. Therefore if McLaren had a failure they could hold Pirelli responsible, RBR couldn't.

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Originally Posted by Malbec

Not quite true, McLaren were more bothered about the issue than other teams that ran a more conservative camber.

The difference is, as already pointed out, McLaren stuck to Pirelli's recommendations while RBR didn't. Therefore if McLaren had a failure they could hold Pirelli responsible, RBR couldn't.

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Enough of these facts please, especially when they get in the way of having a dig at RBR.

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

When did McLaren ask for a new set of tyres and who did they ask for a new set of tyres, Daniel?

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Are you unable to read? The answers to these questions are only a page or two back....

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Originally Posted by Malbec

Not quite true, McLaren were more bothered about the issue than other teams that ran a more conservative camber.

The difference is, as already pointed out, McLaren stuck to Pirelli's recommendations while RBR didn't. Therefore if McLaren had a failure they could hold Pirelli responsible, RBR couldn't.

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Yeah I agree completely here. Again, RBR were the team that didn't stick to Pirelli's recommendations, which, as I said already, was really stupid. Ferrari also stuck to Pirelli recommendations.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Enough of these facts please, especially when they get in the way of having a dig at RBR.

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They don't get in the way of it, they support it.

Regards the other point with McLaren, I haven't read through all of the thread, so if there is mention of McLaren requesting new tyres I have not read it. It's irrelevant anyway. The issue, as pointed out, and what I've been saying all along is that RBR were stupid and could paid a heavy price.

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

When did McLaren ask for a new set of tyres and who did they ask for a new set of tyres, Daniel?

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Malbec kindly referred to an Andrew Benson column - the FIA were apparently ready to allow them to change, but backtracked when they found out that RB were over the 4 degree recommended limit. According the BBC, McLaren ran at 4 degrees, not over as Red Bull did.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Sadly I think The Black Knight seems to want to put the boot into RBR.....

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That's his prerogative you know.....

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

They don't get in the way of it, they support it.

Regards the other point with McLaren, I haven't read through all of the thread, so if there is mention of McLaren requesting new tyres I have not read it. It's irrelevant anyway. The issue, as pointed out, and what I've been saying all along is that RBR were stupid and could paid a heavy price.

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It's like talking to a brick wall! :rolleyes:

The fact that McLaren's tyres were also blistering is not irrelevant.

Neither you nor anyone on here actually knows how close the tyres were to failing, you come on here with emotive language in place of facts and knowledge just so you can have a dig at one team. I could say that they were absolutely fine and there was no chance of failure and you could say that if they'd done another lap both drivers would be dead and both of us would be wrong because we simply do not know. Those are the FACTS.

At the end of the day this is racing and it's part of the allure. I bet you anything if it were McLaren who had run more than the recommended camber and got away with it then you'd be congratulating them on their master stroke :rolleyes:

RBR won, deal with it.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

That's his prerogative you know.....

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Should we tolerate this though? It's no better than the people who see that Lewis has one sideburn longer in a press conference than the other and who criticise him for it and would happily have him banned for it.