Texas poised to become 2nd state allowing concealed handguns on university campuses

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

The idea that a person like you would have a say on whether I can posses a gun or not makes me throw up a bit in my mouth.
People like you just don't get it. You have grown up with and accepted fascism as a fact of you life that a true believer in liberty like me is a threat to your core.

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Oh well.

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

The idea that a person like you would have a say on whether I can posses a gun or not makes me throw up a bit in my mouth.
People like you just don't get it. You have grown up with and accepted fascism as a fact of you life that a true believer in liberty like me is a threat to your core.

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It's not about the right, it's about the need. Yours is a sad society if it functions so poorly that you feel you need to have a weapon (which you probably don't know how to use properly) in order to feel safe.

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Originally Posted by henners88

Talk about a paranoid society. :eek:

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No, it has to do with a "paranoia" that if you are not prepared and will not defend your freedom on a personal individual basis, then sooner or later, what limited freedom you have, will be taken from you.

That is the heritage of this country, as we did not have a real revolution, but had a developed an independance and reliance solely upon one's own individual self for survival. GB tries to start excercising control that appearred to threaten that independance.

In reaction to that percieved threat, individuals armed with their personal weapons that were an absolute necessity for survival, took arms and fought the British to a stand still. They proceeded to do the same in the War of 1812. While it may have taken a French army and navy to seal the deal, the Revolution was started, fought and kept alive by farmers and other civilains for years before then. Without these civilains, there would have been no Yorktown.

From the begininng of of colonial life, there was no "king" to provide any form of protection, and even at the time of the War of 1812, America was far more free, democratic and "progressive" than Great Britain. Meanwhile these ideals of freedome of speech, respect for individual rights, voting, et al, was something of a much slower, uneven evolutionary process in GB that at one point saw GB under the despotic and tyrannical rule of Henry the Eight, whose later descent into some of the worst abuses of power possible with plenty of torture and murder under the guise of a royal order......until the time of Queen Victoria, it seemed that Britain was under the thumb of a mean and nasty despot, one after another, even with Elizabeth more than willing to hang "traitors' who did not pay absolute obediance to the wiggle of her little finger.

Dump the heritage of these silly, dumb, inbred "royals" whose property wealth was sucked out of the hands of British citizens and continues to be so, even today, then come back and worry about life in the USA.

And then there are the practical situation of today, with out of control violence dominating many parts of the USA.

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Originally Posted by Eki

BTW, does Texas also allow concealed knives, knuckle irons and axes on university campus, or is it just guns?

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Never bring a ax to a gun fight !!

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Originally Posted by markabilly

From the begininng of of colonial life, there was no "king" to provide any form of protection, and even at the time of the War of 1812, America was far more free, democratic and "progressive" than Great Britain. Meanwhile these ideals of freedome of speech, respect for individual rights, voting, et al, was something of a much slower, uneven evolutionary process in GB that at one point saw GB under the despotic and tyrannical rule of Henry the Eight, whose later descent into some of the worst abuses of power possible with plenty of torture and murder under the guise of a royal order......until the time of Queen Victoria, it seemed that Britain was under the thumb of a mean and nasty despot, one after another, even with Elizabeth more than willing to hang "traitors' who did not pay absolute obediance to the wiggle of her little finger.

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There has never been a king of 'GB' called 'Henry the Eight'.

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Originally Posted by markabilly

And then there are the practical situation of today, with out of control violence dominating many parts of the USA.

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And you don't think violence would get out of control more easily if everybody was armed? I do, since most of those who use impulsive violence don't much think about the consequences and there would statistically be more of them in arms.

Tendency to violence is at least partly genetic, so they can't easily control their behavior. Recently they found a gene mutation that increases the odds of violent behavior when drunk. It's more common in Finland than elsewhere. They studied a group of Finnish prisoners and a group of "normal" Finns, and found that the prisoners sentenced for violent crimes had that gene mutations seven times more often than the "normal" people.

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

There has never been a king of 'GB' called 'Henry the Eight'.

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Yes, if we are to be given history lessons, they could at least be historically accurate.

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

The idea of amateurs carrying guns is very frightening to me. All sorts of stupid accidents will occur which will cause people to lose their lives. But the Americans can obviously do what they want but if the people feel that they need to carry a gun, the society has failed them since it's the job of the police &government to protect the people. We do have a lot of hunting weapons in this country and the vast majority of male adult population has extensive military training but for some reason I have never thought about carrying a gun in my pocket. Why should I?

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There is something in this country called responsible ownership. I am far from what would be considered an amateur at owning or handling a firearm. I learned, as many in this country do, to properly handle and operate firearms at avery young age.
Many people in our country DO NOT feel or BELIEVE that it is the "JOB" of the police and government to protect them. That is an individual's responsibility.

One of the primary purposes of the Second Amendment is to guarantee the right and ability of the individual to protect THEMSELVES FROM a tyrannical government. I will NEVER assume the government is my primary source of protection from ANYTHING, nor will I ever believe is it their JOB to provide ME with ANYTHING.

I provide and protect MYSELF,and if I feel the best means of providing myself that protection as a law abiding citizen is through the possession of a firearm, that is my RIGHT and I will continue to do so.

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

There is something in this country called responsible ownership. I am far from what would be considered an amateur at owning or handling a firearm. I learned, as many in this country do, to properly handle and operate firearms at avery young age.
Many people in our country DO NOT feel or BELIEVE that it is the "JOB" of the police and government to protect them. That is an individual's responsibility.

One of the primary purposes of the Second Amendment is to guarantee the right and ability of the individual to protect THEMSELVES FROM a tyrannical government. I will NEVER assume the government is my primary source of protection from ANYTHING, nor will I ever believe is it their JOB to provide ME with ANYTHING.

I provide and protect MYSELF,and if I feel the best means of providing myself that protection as a law abiding citizen is through the possession of a firearm, that is my RIGHT and I will continue to do so.

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So you do not believe in the rule of law?

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Originally Posted by henners88

Times change and move on. We longer need to fight our government on the battlefield and defend our homes/castles from 'Robin Hood' style characters with a Smith and Weston. Do you guys seriously sit and worry about your homes being invaded by criminals and defending yourself against government policies you don't agree with packing a piece under your beds?? Should the fourth horseman of the apocalypse ever show up and take away your freedom, I doubt a few landmines and a few carefully locked away guns will do you any good.

A simple 'yes' would have been efficient enough to confirm paranoia. I wasn't expecting something that convincing in response.. :eek: :p

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Paranoia is an irrational fear. Protecting ones self from possible harm or uninvited intrusion in ones home is not irrational.