Kubica's replacement... (It's Heidfeld!)

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Would it concern you if you were running the team?

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Were I a team owner/boss, I would not prevent any of my drivers from doing anything they want to in the off-season, on the grounds that the statistical probability of something happening is so small as not to merit being 'regulated' against. For years, F1 drivers habitually took part in other forms of motorsport, and I would very much like to see that being the case again.

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Originally Posted by maxter

If the teams want to be inhuman corporate monsters, sure, as long as it's clear when the driver signs the contract. But surely you wouldn't want to force the teams to add such a clause, right..?

Personally I'm delighted Robert was allowed to participate in such an activity; the drivers should still be allowed to live and have some fun even if it is at a certain risk. Sure, money this and money that and it's all very important I'm sure, but I still get a fuzzy feeling whenever there is actually a sense of humanism and good ol' fun involved in such a high profit sport in this day and age.

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Are you kidding me - I am paying a driver 10 million per year and have no contract to regulate his activities - Not something I would do as a team owner. So now I have to find another driver. Do I still pay Robert? Say I pick Hulk and I think he is better - do I get to cut Robert when he heals. F1 is a big dollar sport and living you life is making it and getting paid huge amounts of money. Robert has shown arrogance and disrespect for the team who is paying him a ton of money.

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Originally Posted by RS

Boullier says the options are Senna, Liuzzi, Heidfeld. If those are the options, then I can't see a reason to choose the other two over Heidfeld. He is the one with the most experience and probably the most speed.

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I don't know, Renault is not a factory team any more and lately their decisions have been business (money) driven so there could be a situation where Brazilian sponsors help Senna to get the drive. Senna in black and gold Lotus...

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Originally Posted by Roamy

Are you kidding me - I am paying a driver 10 million per year and have no contract to regulate his activities - Not something I would do as a team owner. So now I have to find another driver. Do I still pay Robert? Say I pick Hulk and I think he is better - do I get to cut Robert when he heals. F1 is a big dollar sport and living you life is making it and getting paid huge amounts of money. Robert has shown arrogance and disrespect for the team who is paying him a ton of money.

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No, he hasn't. The team was fully aware of what he was doing. They could have prevented him from rallying, but they chose not to, quite rightly.

So would you stop Webber riding his Mountain bike.

Calculate the potential risk vs potential gain .

The gains:
Some of these guys are addicts , and need to race . Denying this is folly , as they feel hemmed in , and become unhappy , waiting .
And , even though this is a completely different discipline , it certainly keeps the car control reflexes sharp , which is important , off season .
The possibility that they do well in another racing series only can add to the press that the team receives already , just from the actual entry .

But , somehow , Renault has forgotten that , to mitigate the risk that one takes , it is often wise to have a solid back-up plan in waiting .

The risk:
It is what happened to Robert .

They may be in luck , though .
Jacques should take his place , and by the time Robert comes back they will have realized they don't need Petrov's cash .

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Originally Posted by Roamy

Are you kidding me - I am paying a driver 10 million per year and have no contract to regulate his activities - Not something I would do as a team owner. So now I have to find another driver. Do I still pay Robert? Say I pick Hulk and I think he is better - do I get to cut Robert when he heals. F1 is a big dollar sport and living you life is making it and getting paid huge amounts of money. Robert has shown arrogance and disrespect for the team who is paying him a ton of money.

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You're right on that , cowboy , but I would think that if you were going to let someone do these things , you would get something in return for this risk .
Whether you get them for less , or the insurance covers it , you shouldn't out of pocket in the long run .

Fact is , though , if there's no "plan B" , yer screwed .

Unless there happens to be a WDC around , looking for a seat .

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

You're right on that , cowboy , but I would think that if you were going to let someone do these things , you would get something in return for this risk .
Whether you get them for less , or the insurance covers it , you shouldn't out of pocket in the long run .

Fact is , though , if there's no "plan B" , yer screwed .

Unless there happens to be a WDC around , looking for a seat .

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Yea and they keep digging up Nick who has never won sh!t - But oh no lets not go with a winner. It is ok because the championship will be down to alonso vetted and hamilton and the rest of the teams will be fighting over the scraps and spending themselves broke.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

No, he hasn't. The team was fully aware of what he was doing. They could have prevented him from rallying, but they chose not to, quite rightly.

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Indeed. It's not like he went behind anybody's back or breached his contract, so I can't see how he would be blamed here.

Whether it was smart or enough of the team to let him rally is another question, though I've already stated my opinion about that as well. That's just a matter of viewpoint and opinion and I have no illusion or want to successfully "convert" anyone, I'll just state once again that I'm happy money doesn't always come first.

Plus, accidents with outcomes even close to this in S2000/equal cars are just so rare nowadays. If the team would have forbidden him to race they might just as well have forbidden him to walk out of his front door.

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Originally Posted by maxter

Indeed. It's not like he went behind anybody's back or breached his contract, so I can't see how he would be blamed here.

Whether it was smart or enough of the team to let him rally is another question, though I've already stated my opinion about that as well. That's just a matter of viewpoint and opinion and I have no illusion or want to successfully "convert" anyone, I'll just state once again that I'm happy money doesn't always come first.

Plus, accidents with outcomes even close to this in S2000/equal cars are just so rare nowadays. If the team would have forbidden him to race they might just as well have forbidden him to walk out of his front door.

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well thank god I am not paying you 10mil to drive. It just shows you the disrespect by the current crop of drivers. And yes probably a handful of them are not competent enough to walk out their front door. So you want all the freedom and all the money too. Well a Pig gets fatter and a Hog gets slaughtered. Ole Kub may never even make it back to F1 and when he does he may be driving for HRT