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fousto - I thought they knew you by name in Cartagena. :bandit:Quote:
Originally Posted by Roamy
Beautiful city by the beach surrounded by walls built by the spaniards to protect from pirate attacks - a beautiful "old city" section - a lot of partying - and any type of sexual favor needed will be supplied for a price.
A lot of tourists go there precisely for that.
In many/most states, they can. Parents in my state and others can consent to a minor child marrying or having relationships with adults. When I was in high school, one of the male teachers married a female student who was 16. He sought her parents' permission, received it, the courts declared her an emancipated minor and they lived unhappily ever after.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roamy
Where people typically get into trouble is when the law allows for an age gap (16 year old girl and a 19 year old guy) but someone who is 30 thinks it should be OK to have a relationship with that same 16 year old. The law is the law. I'm FAR from a puritan. But especially in teacher/student scenarios, as I stated previously, only a defective adult female teacher would be pursuing a relationship with a male (or female) student half her age... no different than a male doing the same thing. Where I see "political correctness" is when people support special rules and privileges based on gender, or whatever. And it's typically a middle aged+ male, who still has fantasies of Mrs. Goodbody, his 10th grade English teacher, who wore a sheer dress to class one day and stood in the sunlight, who thinks these kinds of female adult/male minor relationships are acceptable. Responsible adults learn to control their urges. We have laws (even though some are based on arbitrary ages) for minors because they are not expected to have fully developed those same control mechanisms yet.
I don't have children... probably never will. But I'm VERY keen on education. So if I did have a child (son or daughter), I would not be sending them to school to learn the birds & the bees from some socially challenged 30 year old, who is unable to/incapable of dating someone her own age. Having my son as the class stud or my daughter as the class sl#t would suggest my failure as a parent. But that's just me. With the U.S. now absolutely full of irresponsible young males with STD's and teen moms collecting "baby-daddy MIA" welfare (dreaming of the day when they MIGHT get their GED), clearly my view is not shared by many these days.
Don't worry Fousto, I'm working on updating GPS Points of Interest with a special edition for you. Just press the little red light symbol and it will take you to the nearest location. :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Roamy
You might not be a puritan but you're posting like one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
If someone over 30 has consented sexual relationship with someone aged 16, 17, 18 etc it's their bloody business and there is no age limiting the sexual attraction that two human beings can feel.
I'm quite sure the student mentioned earlier in this thread was more than happy to have his teacher blow him and then he went and made it all public to reap the admiration of his colleagues without thinking that he might have her serve prison for this.
If you'll have a son or a daughter who want to get laid with someone older they will do it no matter what you might think and do about it. It's how it works with adolescents and no one found a cure to it yet.
'Absolutely full'? A slight exaggeration, perhaps?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
Exactly. This is not to say that it's a wise thing to do, on the part of either party, but it is unavoidable that such instances will occur. We should in society restrict illegality, no matter what the subject, to areas in which rendering something illegal will actually make a difference to behaviour. This, like certain drugs, is not such a case.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
perfect - lets do a iPhone app and call it "Red Light"Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
I'll let you beta test for me. Once it goes public you can come visit on the yacht at Monaco and we can discuss future release updates and changes. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Roamy
This situation has been in place for quite a while. Ever heard "Maggie May" by Rod Stewart?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
Sorry if my objection to adult/child sexual relations seems puritanical to you. But it is what it is. Maybe it's a cultural thing. I don't know. But here in the U.S. (outside of certain fundamentalist religious cults), you probably won't find too many people who find such relationships acceptable - especially those involving teachers. And say, why did you stop at 16? Why not 12 or 13, or even 11 - or is that what you meant by "no age limit"? I personally find that rather disturbing. As you seem to be defining "consent" here, anyone who can speak can say "yes" or "no", correct? So as long as the minor is physically capable, why not let that be the deciding factor? So a 40 year old man and a 14 year old girl... Let Love Rule (good Lenny Kravitz tune, BTW), you'd say? No, the primal desires of either party aside, that just doesn't fly with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
To further cement my puritanical stance, I'm also opposed to selling cigarettes to 5 year olds and hard liquor to toddlers - maybe a six pack of beer, but not hard liquor. They shouldn't be drinking hard liquor until they're at least 7, right? They can have their 40 year old boyfriends buy it for them by then. :p
Sure have... an oldie but a goodie. But my favorite Rod Stewart & The Faces tune was "Every Picture Tells a Story". Though I'd say the best one for this thread would be "Forever Young" :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz
Hmm, maybe a bit hyperbolic in tone, but not really an exaggeration. We actually do have a major and growing problem with STD's among teens here.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Rates of STDs among teens reach epidemic levels
I'm not against two teens or two near teens forming a relationship. But a 30 or 40 year old and a 12-16 year old??? Come on now, guys! It's one thing to hoist the libertarian flag in the interest of a good hypothetical discussion. But I'm beginning to hear this Kinks tune play in my head as I read some of these posts. :eek:Quote:
One in four teenage girls in the U.S. has an STD, according to the Centers for Disease Control. In Wisconsin, the rate of four of the most commonly reported STDs among teens jumped 53 percent between 1997 and 2007.
The U.S. spends an estimated $15.9 billion annually on direct medical care for STDs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAfxWV4eCiM