2010 Indianapolis 500

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

Practice Session 2 results..

Rank / Car# & Driver / Lap Time / Speed

1. #3 Helio Castroneves / 00:39.6395 / 227.046
2. #9 Scott Dixon / 00:39.7875 / 226.202
3. #10 Dario Franchitti / 00:39.8152 / 226.044
4. #12 Will Power / 00:39.8937 / 225.600
5. #11 Tony Kanaan / 00:39.9070 / 225.524
6. #32 Mario Moraes / 00:39.9924 / 225.043
7. #4 Dan Wheldon / 00:40.0742 / 224.583
8. #6 Ryan Briscoe / 00:40.0786 / 224.559
9. #26 Marco Andretti / 00:40.0910 / 224.489
10. #30 Graham Rahal / 00:40.1212 / 224.320
11. #14 Vitor Meira / 00:40.1553 / 224.130
12. #99 Townsend Bell / 00:40.2735 / 223.472
13. #7 Danica Patrick / 00:40.2898 / 223.382
14. #41 AJ Foyt IV / 00:40.4010 / 222.767
15. #06T Hideki Mutoh / 00:40.4127 / 222.702
16. #22 Justin Wilson / 00:40.4486 / 222.505
17. #8 EJ Viso / 00:40.4899 / 222.278
18. #2 Raphael Matos / 00:40.5056 / 222.191
19. #67 Sarah Fisher / 00:40.5126 / 222.153
20. #43 John Andretti / 00:40.5167 / 222.131
21. #15 Paul Tracy / 00:40.5654 / 221.864
22. #25 Ana Beatriz / 00:40.5945 / 221.705
23. #20 Ed Carpenter / 00:40.6256 / 221.535
24. #77 Alex Tagliani / 00:40.6353 / 221.482
25. #23 Tomas Scheckter / 00:40.7135 / 221.057
26. #19 Alex Lloyd / 00:40.7204 / 221.019
27. #37 Ryan Hunter-Reay / 00:40.7285 / 220.975
28. #34 Mario Romancini / 00:40.8544 / 220.295
29. #5 Takuma Sato / 00:40.8973 / 220.063
30. #24 Mike Conway / 00:40.9380 / 219.845
31. #36 Bertrand Baguette / 00:40.9631 / 219.710
32. #18 Milka Duno / 00:41.0469 / 219.261
33. #29 Sebastian Saavedra / 00:41.1116 / 218.916

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And here's practice times that have AJ IV in 14 and PT in 21. Are those times irrelevent? Yet the times when PT's slow relevent? Can't have it both ways.

All four times you highlighted were in fact too slow to make the field....

Might mean squat to you .....means pt won't be strapping in next Sunday

Ymmv but from where I sit that's not irrellevant

ces't la vie, enjoy that world...

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Originally Posted by SarahFan

Not kicking Paul to the curb at all .... He was is and remains my favorite racer


But the reality he was slow during the session in question .... And he as well milka failed to qualify ...

Am I lumping him in the milka category ... He'll no

but in retrospect his lack of speed wasn't irrellevant

clearly you disagree ...... But reality is neither is Field next Sunday ....

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His lack of speed on the chart in question WAS irrelevant, because Paul clearly stated they were experimenting with race day setups at that time NOT qualifying setups. So his time on that sheet relative to him being in the field was then and is now irrelevant. That time had nothing at all to do with their qualifying attempts.

But you just want to pick a fight with Hoop, so go ahead. You're gonna get your head handed to you, as he has forgotten more about racing than you will ever know.

Gary

Typical .....Gary stick with the discusssion.... What Paul or milka were working on isn't relevant...

What is patently relavant is that they were both slow .... And now are both sitting on the sidelines

now make no mistake i'm not happy about..... But in hindsight from where I sit it's perfectly clear it's relevant ......

For where you and hoop obviosly not so much.... But Paul is still on the sidelines now isn't he..... Perhaps he should have been working on qualifying setups huh!?!?!

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Originally Posted by SarahFan

Typical .....Gary stick with the discusssion.... What Paul or milka were working on isn't relevant...

What is patently relavant is that they were both slow .... And now are both sitting on the sidelines

now make no mistake i'm not happy about..... But in hindsight from where I sit it's perfectly clear it's relevant ......

For where you and hoop obviosly not so much.... But Paul is still on the sidelines now isn't he..... Perhaps he should have been working on qualifying setups huh!?!?!

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WHAT???? You are not that clueless. On the sheet in question Paul was working on race day setups, Paul himself has made that point clear. Just so you know, race setups are SLOWER than qualifying setups. A day or so later on another time sheet Paul was second fastest.

The times he posted while working on race day setups have ZERO, NADA, ZILCH to do with what his qualifying times were.

So you think he should have been working on qualifying setups that day, huh? So you are more qualified than Barry Green on what they should or should not have been doing that day. Man I'd love to be there when you had the cajones to say that to Paul or Barry's face. Let me remind you that the temperatures that day were quite low, and the weather forecast for qualifying were for MUCH higher temperatures. And since the temperature is a HUGE factor in the setups, they felt it was a waste of time and tires to work on qualifying setups knowing that the data gained would be USELESS come Saturday. (I believe the time sheet in question was prior to knowing they would get more tires, but I may be worng about the timing of that.)

But no, Ken knows better. He knows they should have been working on qualifying that day. Priceless. Let us know when you get the job of team manager.

Gary

Well, I'll tell ya who I wish would have been here racing, and the one I'm taking great notice of!!

First off, I still believe that Robert Doornbos is a racer who deserves to be in an Indycar, and I believe we'll see him doing amazing things in Indycar in the near future.

The one I'm beginning to notice a great talent from is Simona! She is silently becoming comfortable with an Indycar IMO!!

Another thing.........I think Satos car looks pretty cool!! for an Indycar

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Originally Posted by garyshell

WHAT???? You are not that clueless. On the sheet in question Paul was working on race day setups, Paul himself has made that point clear. Just so you know, race setups are SLOWER than qualifying setups. A day or so later on another time sheet Paul was second fastest.

The times he posted while working on race day setups have ZERO, NADA, ZILCH to do with what his qualifying times were.

So you think he should have been working on qualifying setups that day, huh? So you are more qualified than Barry Green on what they should or should not have been doing that day. Man I'd love to be there when you had the cajones to say that to Paul or Barry's face. Let me remind you that the temperatures that day were quite low, and the weather forecast for qualifying were for MUCH higher temperatures. And since the temperature is a HUGE factor in the setups, they felt it was a waste of time and tires to work on qualifying setups knowing that the data gained would be USELESS come Saturday. (I believe the time sheet in question was prior to knowing they would get more tires, but I may be worng about the timing of that.)

But no, Ken knows better. He knows they should have been working on qualifying that day. Priceless. Let us know when you get the job of team manager.

Gary

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not sure what to tell ya gary....but early in the week Paul was slow, at one point slower than Milka....

both failed to qualify...

what then may have seemed irrelavant..... clearly today doesnt look that way to me

had Paul put it in the field you might have a Valid point..... the fact he didnt seems to support me....


clearly super fans like like you and hoop know something I dont....perhaps YOUR in fact the one who knows more than Barry

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Originally Posted by garyshell

they felt it was a waste of time and tires to work on qualifying setups knowing that the data gained would be USELESS come Saturday. (I believe the time sheet in question was prior to knowing they would get more tires, but I may be worng about the timing of that.)

But no, Ken knows better.

Gary

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in retrospect the penske boys seemed to disagree with you......they know a thing or two about the month of may at the speedway....