Almost official: USF1 wouldn't race in 2010

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22nd February 2010, 07:49
turismo6

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

There was a car called Toyota available to USF1 but they seemingly didn't have the money to buy it. So it's not really about the car being late, it's about the green thing. They don't have it, so old cars or whatever will not help. They're out, unfortunately.

"Didn't they say they started working on their 2010 car before the sale of the Toyota cars"- I'm basing this on no facts
22nd February 2010, 08:10
Sonic

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Originally Posted by call_me_andrew

Question: What is the penalty for an unexcused race absense?

Well its the FIA, so of course it will be a consistent and unambiguous penalty that will be apply fairly year on year :rolleyes:

No one knows what the penalty is - it could range from a slap on the wrist, to a huge fine, to gods knows what.
22nd February 2010, 09:29
SGWilko

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Originally Posted by N. Jones

Seems to me that the FIA deserves SOME of the blame though since they are they ones that approved of USF1 for 2010 in the first place..

For FIA read MAX. For some read ALL
22nd February 2010, 09:34
SGWilko

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

Never mind the FIA - it remains to be seen if FOR ONCE Todt actually takes a decision without referring it to committee..

Easy now. We want a fair decision, not one where the incumbant calls the shots. That was Max's flaw - he thought he new best when in fact, he was just living out his fantasy and settling scores.
22nd February 2010, 10:59
Dave B

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Originally Posted by call_me_andrew

Question: What is the penalty for an unexcused race absense?

That's the million-dollar question. The rule is clear, but as is so often the case there's no mention of a penalty. I could be exclusion from the Championship, it could be a $5000 fine and immediate cessation of chocolate rations. Farcical, isn't it?

Let's be honest, even if USF1 missed the first four races, never mind three, does anybody seriously think they'd have the money or the staff to build anything remotely approaching a pair of F1 cars?
22nd February 2010, 11:40
Mia 01

Enough is enough. They got no money, no car and still they got all this attention. Other teams like Lotus has built their car in five months whitout all this fuzz. They are testing now. Missing fore races, holy cow.
22nd February 2010, 12:02
DazzlaF1

SPEED TV's views on the mess

http://link.brightcove.com/services/...id=67722813001
22nd February 2010, 12:03
Dave B

Exactly. Lotus and Virgin got on with the job in hand without fuss or fanfare. Ok they might not be the most competitive teams on the grid, but they'll be in Bahrain and have a solid base to build on.

If USF1 had even come close to their achievements then there might be a case for special treatment, but as it stands they haven't even built a working car. To allow them dispensation to skip races makes a mockery of the effort and professionalism shown by Lotus and Virgin.
22nd February 2010, 12:10
DazzlaF1

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

Exactly. Lotus and Virgin got on with the job in hand without fuss or fanfare. Ok they might not be the most competitive teams on the grid, but they'll be in Bahrain and have a solid base to build on.

If USF1 had even come close to their achievements then there might be a case for special treatment, but as it stands they haven't even built a working car. To allow them dispensation to skip races makes a mockery of the effort and professionalism shown by Lotus and Virgin.

Absolutely, i'd put Campos in that same bracket too,sure they've not tested the Dallara yet but the takeover proves they've been working their socks off just to be ready for the season opener (in other words, they've had their own problems and they're managing to overcome them), now if they did that and then found out that the Americans were allowed to miss the first 4 races, i'd forgive the Campos team for feeling a bit peeved.

As would Lotus & Virgin, they're a few steps ahead of Campos in the fact that they've built their cars, got complete driver lineups and have taken part in the pre-season group tests, sure they've had their problems with their cars so far but at least they are there and ready to race, and for that they both deserve a hell of a lot of credit.

If Lopez (the american team's only driver at the moment) ends up moving to Campos, then thats USF1 dead in the water in my view.
22nd February 2010, 12:16
jonny hurlock

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

Exactly. Lotus and Virgin got on with the job in hand without fuss or fanfare. Ok they might not be the most competitive teams on the grid, but they'll be in Bahrain and have a solid base to build on.

If USF1 had even come close to their achievements then there might be a case for special treatment, but as it stands they haven't even built a working car. To allow them dispensation to skip races makes a mockery of the effort and professionalism shown by Lotus and Virgin.

imo I don't think that will be in f1 at all, there fault in the end of the day, they had a year to organisation them self, also when you have people such as Mike Gascoyne, Nick Wirth and John Booth thats a lot of confidence and reference, compared to Ken Anderson and Peter Windsor with limited reference imo.

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