Yes he should get one - He loves people especially 18 yr old girls!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Course the may have to change it to the Nobel Piece Award
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Yes he should get one - He loves people especially 18 yr old girls!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Course the may have to change it to the Nobel Piece Award
So when the Russians come over the border, you want Obama to stick to his guns and let Finland be over run?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
EKI is a communist why would he care - he would house and feed them!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
"When"? I'd say "if". And he'd do it anyways, just like his predecessors let Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania to be run over during and after WW2 and didn't do much in 1939 when the Soviets invaded Finland and Finland pleaded for help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
Even if I were a communist, most of the Russians aren't.Quote:
Originally Posted by fousto
You know that this has about as much chance of happening as I have of winning the Lottery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
Finland may be over run by the Russians, but it will be by the Russian mafia and oligarchs and their ill gotten gains. It will not be by the Russian military which couldn't even scratch it's self to save it's self at the moment.
This take over will be ok coz the billionaires and the mafia have earned their money by fair and legal means, just like our friend Madoff! ho hum....
That's true. Rich Russians have been buying land and property in Finland, and there have been discussions on the media whether Russians should be allowed to buy land in Finland or not. I think Finns may only rent land and property in Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Camelopard
As per usual, most of you missed the point. The point is, If The Russians invaded Finland (unlikely but it did happen once as we all know. and the Finn's did fight them off), the whole world would look at the US immediately and expect them to do something about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
Being the US becomes a constant target. If a small underdog nation with a democracy is overrun, the US is expected to do something about it. If it DOES do something, it is termed as interfering by other critics. Eki has always been highly critical of the US for their Iraq adventure, but the point has always been that the US was an isolationist power for most of its history for the most part. They stood out of the most moral war in history for almost 2 and a half years before being pushed into it by the Japanese bombing Pearl Harbor and Hitler declaring war against them. The Americans are damned if they do, damned if they don't. Should they involve themselves in any police actions or wars? Eki would argue no, I would argue stupidity in this world will continue on no matter what the US does. At least tho with the Americans, The motives of the people of the country are ones I can more or less understand and agree with. When Iraq invaded Kuwait, only an idiot would argue Hussein was going to give the Kuwaití's a better life.
If Venezuela goes to war with Colombia tomorrow, I have little or no faith that Chavez's motives are anything good. Just as I would condemn the Colombians invading Venezuela. However, the Americans would get involved if Venezuela did invade at some level, and Eki would condemn them for it, and I wouldn't. As with most arguments on here, it all comes down to who do you really trust. And despite Eki's naive assumptions, I suspect if he was actually confronted with being on the receiving end of the regimes he routinely supports, there would be a part of him that would hope to be rescued from it, even if it was the evil Americans. So if the Russians invade, he better hope the Finn's get some form of assistance from the West and US in particular.
As for the invasion of the Baltic nations in the 40's and the West doing nothing, he condemns the UK and US for NOT stopping the Russians...but gee...isn't that what I am pointing out? Damned if you do...damned if you don't.
In 2003 Iraq hadn't invaded anyone but were minding their own business with one if not both hands tied behind their backs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
I didn't say they should have done something, I just pointed out that they didn't as a precedent from history when you seemed to believe the US would help Finland in case of a Russian invasion and I don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
Well we would probably help you but only after they put YOU in Stalag 13 :)