WRC 1.6T or IRC S2000

Let’s hope that those manufacturers also will attend WRC in the near future. Would also be nice to know which these manufactures were.

Maybe the second attempt by FIA to have similar engines for WRC and WTCC gives a better result than the first one (S2000). The S2000 engines in rallying and track racing are not exactly the same and therefore it’s not possible to use the same engine in both rallying and track racing but if the 1.6T engine would be exactly the same in both rallying and track racing then maybe (big maybe) there could be some manufacturer that would attend the both championships.

OK, if so many potential manufacturer has agreed on s1600 then it's not too bad decision.

But I have been wondering some time why they are not doing three cars per manufacturer rule? If there was Petter and Atkinson driving during 2009 the championship would be worthy. In that case we could safely say that there would be four best drovers in the world (Loeb, Hirvonen, Petter and Atkinson).

Thank God they are moving to a turbo engine...

Wrc cars had turbo since.... since i remember.

And the s2000's are not bad but may i say that they are slow as hell... I watched IRC in Madeira few weeks ago and man were they slow...

The top sport has always to have the top car and get more people into the sport, s2000 cars aren't capable of that because they are not that fun to watch!!!!

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Originally Posted by RAS007

If the FIA hadn't f*cked it all up in the first place, there wouldn't even be an IRC. It is exactly because of the mismanagement of the WRC by the FIA that there was enough interest in the first place to start a break away series. Frankly, and this pains me to say it as a follower since the early 80's, I don't really care if the WRC disappears altogether now, because it has become a laughable parody of its former self. In its current form, it is actually worse than no series at all.

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RAS007, I totaly agree with you!

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Originally Posted by RAS007

If the FIA hadn't f*cked it all up in the first place, there wouldn't even be an IRC. It is exactly because of the mismanagement of the WRC by the FIA that there was enough interest in the first place to start a break away series. Frankly, and this pains me to say it as a follower since the early 80's, I don't really care if the WRC disappears altogether now, because it has become a laughable parody of its former self. In its current form, it is actually worse than no series at all.

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Agree about FIA but not necessarily about WRC dying.

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Originally Posted by OldF

By the “Jarmo’s corner” six manufacturers agreed that it should be 1.6T.

http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/s...9/default.html

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Good news, let's see: Ford, Citroen, Skoda, Proton, Fiat(Abarth) and... Suzuki?

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

It could be said that the WRC is just living on it's name at the moment - it has the name, history and the top 3-4 drivers. It has been resting on it's laurels. The longer it only has 2 Manufacturers, the less it becomes - at the moment it is suffering from credibility problems - very few people take it seriously - that cannot go on much longer. Personally, I'd have gone for S2000 for a few years, then bring in S1.6T.

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I agree entirely with your post here. :up:
Nevertheless someone who is realistic and sees the truth.

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Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze

]FIA monopoly on using name "championship" doesn't make these series better itself. Good names are fine but still are only names. There should be something more not like in European championship for example...

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Didn't the WRC have to have some special dispensation to be called a 'championship' this year anyway as it only has 2 manufacturers? Maybe they got round this with the pretend "teams" such as Munchis and Stobart..

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Originally Posted by RS

Didn't the WRC have to have some special dispensation to be called a 'championship' this year anyway as it only has 2 manufacturers? Maybe they got round this with the pretend "teams" such as Munchis and Stobart..

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Yea they fudged it with the "manufacturer teams" as AFAIK in order to have a FIA Manufacturers Championship there need to be more than 2 manufacturers...

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Originally Posted by Iskald

I do agree that two manufacturers alone in the championship is a bit weak, but it`s still better than IRC.

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Still better with only 2 manufacturers ? And 2/3 drivers allowed to win ? FAIL !

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Originally Posted by Iskald

And who knows, maybe in 2012 or onwards it will be four, five or even more manufacturers contesting the WRC.

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Yes, that's what we used to say also in 2006 ... let's keep on dreaming.

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Originally Posted by Finni

But I have been wondering some time why they are not doing three cars per manufacturer rule? If there was Petter and Atkinson driving during 2009 the championship would be worthy. In that case we could safely say that there would be four best drovers in the world (Loeb, Hirvonen, Petter and Atkinson).

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First time ever that a Finni's post makes not much sense xD "three cars ! having Petter and Atkinson again !", you mean one in Ford and one in Citroen ? Apart that it would be impossible (they would take other paying people - oh wait, Ford has already Al Qassimi in the third official car ! Didn't you know ?)...what would be the difference compared to last poor year ^^ ?

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Originally Posted by Iskald

Isn`t it a bit naive to think that "major manufacturers" would like to fight for the Intercontinental Rally Challenge instead of the World Rally Championship?

I find this decision from FIA to be tactical rather than stupid. With a S2000 engine rule the WRC would compete directly with the IRC, as the cars in both series would be identical fast. The World Rally Championship is supposed to be fought out by the best drivers in the fastest cars. With a 1.6Turbo engine rule WRC will maintain its position as the series with the fastest cars, and therefore also attract the best drivers (and the major manufacturers).

I do agree that two manufacturers alone in the championship is a bit weak, but it`s still better than IRC. And who knows, maybe in 2012 or onwards it will be four, five or even more manufacturers contesting the WRC. And the reason for being so optimistic? It`s the World championship we are talking about, not a "Challenge" with dubious status among media, sponsors and spectators.

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First of all you are way too optimistic about the WRC and the F1A. They dug the hole that started a spinoff series (IRC), so what makes you think they can dig their way out of it by making the same stupid mistakes all over again? If they want to call themselves the “World” Rally Championship they need to be more open to more worldly cars and engine platforms. Another thing you need to take into account is that most all organizations whose names begin with the word “world” are usually corrupt and maybe the WRC isn’t any different.