Mosley 'knows' who set him up

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

And as mentioned in one of my posts this evening, of more serious concern are the illegal methods used by sections of the media to obtain private information. Cases have been brought; punishments have never been sufficiently severe. How do you get rid of this while preserving the best of investigative journalism? It's a difficult one.

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This is one of the reasons why I think the initial high court ruling was so effective. Whilst it found the journalist guilty, sending the message to the press that such future behaviour shouldn't be tolerated, the penalty to the journalist involved was quite small so as to ensure that worried editors wouldn't be scared off investigating genuinely interesting stories.

Revisiting that ruling, which Mosley seems happy to do, wouldn't achieve much more IMO

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Originally Posted by Dylan H

This is one of the reasons why I think the initial high court ruling was so effective. Whilst it found the journalist guilty, sending the message to the press that such future behaviour shouldn't be tolerated, the penalty to the journalist involved was quite small so as to ensure that worried editors wouldn't be scared off investigating genuinely interesting stories.

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The trouble with all this is that nothing, not even court cases (which came to very little) has stamped out the illegal practices. As much as I as a journalist, albeit in a specialist field, believe press freedom needs to be upheld, I feel a harder line needs to be taken with regard to the unlawful/immoral collection of private information — though the idea that this could have prevented, for example, Jonathan Aitken from being found out disturbs me somewhat. So far, it hasn't been, not even when seemingly cast-iron cases came to court. I am really uncomfortable with some of the methods used.

One only has to look at how papers of all types in the UK, including some broadsheets, have gone back on their vacuous promises not to use paparazzi photos in the aftermath of Princess Diana's death to not be surprised at the lack of success of self-regulation.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

Not here in the colonies , Dave .

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Originally Posted by ioan

Why do British people believe that the rest of the world is like on their Island?!
When it obviously isn't.

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My post clearly stated "in the UK", if it implied that it also referred to the rest of the world then I obviously didn't make it clear enough.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Why do British people believe that the rest of the world is like on their Island?!
When it obviously isn't.

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I think you will find, with no offence intended to anyone/thing, that the rest of the world - and his dog - are on our Island, such is the ineffectiveness of our immigration policy..............

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

I think you will find, with no offence intended to anyone/thing, that the rest of the world - and his dog - are on our Island, such is the ineffectiveness of our immigration policy..............

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Well, in this case, I certainly wouldn't want to go (be) there! :p :

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Originally Posted by ioan

You might have plenty of F1 teams, also the ones that got the biggest fines in the automotive history, as well as most bankrupt automotive manufacturers in the history and so on, but the greatest F1 team isn't there and never will be. :p :

Also the FIA and all it's national clubs aren't located there. :D

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We do have a rich heritage and knowledge base in F1. However, who is the most Bankrupt team in Automotive history?

Who was the last team to go bankrupt in F1?

You might also like to bear in mind where a lot of a certain Itallian teams design was done until recently which coincides with their most sucessful period in recent years ;)

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

If you fancy a quick straw poll, ask 10 people today if they know who Max is and if they do, what they know about him. I'll do the same but answer honestly ;)

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So I asked a few people today and no one knew who was Max Mosley.
I guess I don't live within a representative group for motorsport enthusiasts. :)

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

You might also like to bear in mind where a lot of a certain Itallian teams design was done until recently which coincides with their most sucessful period in recent years ;)

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Recently was 15 years ago?! :D
I would say it was the least successful period in their history!

Six pages of childish nonsense and this thread still hasn't been locked.

That's a bigger mystery than who set up Max.

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Originally Posted by ioan

So I asked a few people today and no one knew who was Max Mosley.

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I would suggest that those people could do with brushing up on their current affairs knowledge, to be honest.