Donkey of the Race (Canada GP Edition)

It is a rather silly thing for Lewis to do, i do think however he was genuinely trying to avoid kimi when he didnt see this red light and was unfortunate to hit the back of him. However, Lewis really does need to think about what hes saying sometimes. Its not hard to see a red light, and 2 stationary cars. You dont need your team to tell you that.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I agree that it is completely excessive sometimes, just as the vitriol handed out to other drivers is often completely excessive. But I have never really considered any of that directed at Hamilton on here as resulting from racist motives — even very subtle ones. The motives behind it are generally, in my opinion, seriously misguided, but I've never felt them to be racist.

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as I said, that's part of the motivation IMO, not the "sole" reason.
But it is an undercurrent thatcan't be ignored. Other aspects such as the fact that he's got an ego, is hailed by the press, and has already achieved a proportionate amount of success play a factor too. But not beleiving that race plays a bit of a factor too (when in fact it already has) is probably not wanting to beleive such a thing rather than the reality of human nature, and people's (even on this forum) misgivings.

cheers

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Originally Posted by Ghostwalker

NO as said a million times already the past 2 days. Kimi lost control of his car while Lewis didn't pay attention to what was going on ahead of him.

Kimis incident wasnt avoidable Lewis' and Nico's was.

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Just because it's been 'said a million times already' doesn't mean it's the truth.

I don't see how Kimi's incident wasn't avoidable if every single other car managed to go down that hill 70 times or so without doing the exact same thing.

I think that they were both avoidable incidents.

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Originally Posted by cosmicpanda

Just because it's been 'said a million times already' doesn't mean it's the truth.

I don't see how Kimi's incident wasn't avoidable if every single other car managed to go down that hill 70 times or so without doing the exact same thing.

I think that they were both avoidable incidents.

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In a sense you're right. But you can't go around and penalise drivers for losing control of their car under racing conditions. Particulary in wet conditions.

You can penalise drivers who do similar things under controlled conditions, such as those under the safety car and in the speed-limited pitlane, or both as was the case in Canada.

That's why Hamilton, Rosberg and Nakajima have all received penalites this year and Raikkonen, Coulthard, Button, Massa and several others haven't.

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Originally Posted by Hawkmoon

and several others haven't.

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Including Mr. Hamilton himself for his incident with Fred!!

I should give Ron Dennis a call! I CAN see cars and red lights at the same time!
as for comparing it with Kimi's incident, even if to me he was the donkey of the race in Monaco, he did a mistake while racing on a partially dry track, once he lost control of the car it was unavoidable to hit something eventually... as for Hamilton, he could't see a bloody red light! it's way different

Among three drivers, it was Alonso who has the verified drive license, didn't hit drivers in front at traffic light, we must give him applause. :)

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Originally Posted by cosmicpanda

I don't see how Kimi's incident wasn't avoidable if every single other car managed to go down that hill 70 times or so without doing the exact same thing.

I think that they were both avoidable incidents.

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Yes both were indeed...
Except one was more avoidable than the other...
Stopping a F1 car (no less) going at 80kph from hitting a stopped car should have been much easier than keeping control of a car under braking from 250kph on a slippery surface, no?

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Originally Posted by truefan72

as I said, that's part of the motivation IMO, not the "sole" reason.
But it is an undercurrent thatcan't be ignored. Other aspects such as the fact that he's got an ego, is hailed by the press, and has already achieved a proportionate amount of success play a factor too. But not beleiving that race plays a bit of a factor too (when in fact it already has) is probably not wanting to beleive such a thing rather than the reality of human nature, and people's (even on this forum) misgivings.

cheers

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There's been no evidence of racism at all in regards to Lewis in the talk on this forum. You're making it up as you go along aren't you? :mark:

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Hamsandwich. It's like the worlds hamilton and sandwich combined. Strange concept I know.

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I get it! As in Kimi and Nico were the "bread"! ;)