Max Mosley opens a can of worms.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

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Originally Posted by janneppi

We are asked to believe that the agent didn't know that his wife worked as a hooker , even though he worked in the same organization that was watching that firm .

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Was the firm being watched by MI5 at the time of making of the tape?

If so, it's not that hard to believe that the husband wouldn't know of his wife's involvement.
She propably wouldn't have been in much contact with anyone in that firm before their session. There's a good chance the first time she would be seen was when they set up Mosley.
Even, then, MI5 is a large organisation, and the odds of the husband being the one following Mosleys tails aren't very high.

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Then , she gave up a great job , for a lump sum , selling her story and pictures to the media , thinking she'd get away without them finding out ?
If she was smart enough to fool MI5 , and the escort agency , how come she couldn't figure that one out ?

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How much did she get from the tape, enough to leave her profession perhaps? Selling a story or two to press. Not that bad a deal.
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I'm not suggest that all of the MI5 is rotten . I am suggesting that men can be bought .

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[/quote:g1d8tt2x] So no MI5 involvement, but induviduals acting on their own?

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Originally Posted by janneppi

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

How much did she get from the tape, enough to leave her profession perhaps? Selling a story or two to press. Not that bad a deal.

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Maybe not!! In that profession, any publicity is good publicity as it ups their rates for future services. It's all about customer satisfaction. Just look at the advertising prospects: Being smacked by women who smacked the bottom of the President of Formula 1 would make the blood run fast, and being smacked by the ex wife of an MI5 agent would raise adrenalin levels considerably. Then they could play all that German orders issued by none other than the boss of Formula 1. They could even add the sounds of some F1 cars off the start line as sound effects with each whack!! :eek:

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Originally Posted by ioan

What if the guy was working together with his wife and their major income was setting up such ordered stings?!
The question is, who ordered the whole affair?

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Perhaps we will get answers to those questions, perhaps not, but I still think we're dealing with two separate issues here.

Firstly, there is the right to privacy and the role the NOTW played in exposing Max's private life. Max has acknowledged that his activities were "highly personal and private activities, which are, to say the least, embarrassing". He has not at any point denied his involvment so that is an accepted fact. What he has attempted to do is portray himself as the victim of a conspiracy designed to discredit him. That may, or may not, be true.

Secondly, there is the impact that this story has had on his role as FIA President. Regardless of how or why the story broke it is certainly true that it has had a major impact on his ability to do his job, as well as damaging the organisation he represents.

I think the question that needs to be answered is can Max continue as FIA President while fighting for his right to privacy? As I've said before, I think the answer to that is no.

He should not be at Monaco this weekend, does he really think this will be dropped now. Hom turning up will bring the story back to the press again. News of the World could be interested this weekend. If they follow form they will publish something about him, just to remind everyone what he has done.

I think the man is an idiot over all this and should resign. It will not go away until he does. He's desperately clinging on saying the FIA won't be able to clinch fital deals without him.

Guess what Max you would be replaced and would not be missed. Thats life. Deal with it. You got caught now leave with some dignity, now he has made everyone remember that incident for ever associated with him. He'll be know for 5 prostitutes, like Frank Both was know for prostitutes and Coke.

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Originally Posted by ioan

What if the guy was working together with his wife and their major income was setting up such ordered stings?!
The question is, who ordered the whole affair?

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This isn't an Arni Schwarzenegger/Jamie Lee Curtis film you know.... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

This isn't an Arni Schwarzenegger/Jamie Lee Curtis film you know.... :rolleyes:

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Who said it was? :rolleyes:
You watch to many average movies! :p :

Here is the letter: http://www.formula1.com/flash/other/...Presidents.pdf

In it, Bernie sets out "that regulatory functions relating to international motor sport be separate from the associated commercial interests and that the FIA's role in Formula One should be that of the sporting regulator, uninvolved in its commercial exploitation." ......which debunks the threat that he or CRH intend to takeover F1.

However, he then sets out a thinly veiled attack on Max, and I quote : "We believe it is to the benefit of Formula One that the FIA should have a transparent and robust governance structure and that it should discharge its regulatory responsibilities in a fair, impartial and non-discriminatory manner, without external influence or interference, led by a credible and respected President (who should be chosen by the FIA's membership only)."

.............and Eccleston's press conference on the matter before the letter: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67642

of particular interest is this: "Max is at the moment is blowing a bit of a smokescreen to stop all the other nonsense," said Ecclestone. "He is going to say whatever he thinks is the right thing to say.

"The bottom line is simple: if this incident had not happened to him, which is totally private, would he have informed the clubs in the way that he has informed them?"

That letter really has pulled the rug out from underneath Max. It is almost a coup de gras.

Max is twisting and turning but it looks like he has no options as far as F1 goes.

http://www.formula1.com/flash/other/...Presidents.pdf

Reading the letter, it basically says that Max is a liability and a stumbling block to continuity.

The FIA may decide that F1 isn't as fundamental to them and risk alienating the sport. It will certainly cause conflict which can easily be avoided.

The head of the FIA has experienced condemnation and had his credibility questioned or even refused from within the FIA, from F1, from heads of state, politicians, the Teams and the public. In fact, it's pretty unanimous.

Even people that concede that his private life is his own have agreed that his job is probably untenable and these are his supporters.

Gordon Brown and Max Mosely. Dead men walking.

I have been think about this all day. I would have to say that if my bank manager was caught in Max's dalliances, I would change banks.

And if my boss at an engineering firm was caught in similar circumstances, first of all, I would not broadcast to anyone in a pub that I worked for that firm. And I would quietly be looking for another firm to work for.

I would rather not be associated with such a person anywhere, not even going to the footy with.