[WRC] News & rumours (part II)

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27th January 2011, 18:34
rp

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Originally Posted by J.Lindstroem

I suppose that would be Ford then. Cant see Citroen being interested in anything else than a frenchman.. =)

Ford/M-Sport have already Ott Tänak and he has a five year plan. Hirvonen is good enough second driver and Latvala will lead the team, so I doubt that Hänninen or Ford are interested each others. But maybe some other manufacturer is coming...
27th January 2011, 19:25
Tomi

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Originally Posted by J.Lindstroem

I suppose that would be Ford then. Cant see Citroen being interested in anything else than a frenchman.. =)

Dont belive everything you read, why would Skoda skip the only one who can drive a rallycar in their team?
27th January 2011, 19:51
MJW

Too soon to speculate what happens in 2012 before 2011 starts. Who knows maybe if Loeb is not comfortable in Citroen this year, he and the Red Bull sponsorship maybe VW bound. If VW come in what better way of short circuiting their learning curve than offering big money to Loeb and buy his knowledge and experience? Maybe Loeb wont feel so comfortable in "his team" this year and a big top up to the retirement fund by signing a two year VW deal could be in the offing.
Whoever else is at VW I think Hanninen will be there.
27th January 2011, 19:58
pettersolberg29

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Originally Posted by Tomi

Lol what have you been told, what team? and who is colin clark?

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Originally Posted by Tomi

Dont belive everything you read, why would Skoda skip the only one who can drive a rallycar in their team?

I'm not forcing you to believe me - it's up to you. And Colin Clark is probably the most famous rally journalist in the world - does stage end reports for WRR and does TotalRally and occasionally writes in Motorsport News. I think he knows his stuff.
And you are obviously just giving us some bait to bite onto - Juho is a good driver, but Mikkelsen and Kopecky aren't novices and they can both handle a rallycar. Skoda would be foolish to pass over Juho, but then again Ford would be foolish to pass over Petter but it happened anyway. Politics are a bigger part of motorsport than most like to think.
27th January 2011, 20:03
bluuford

Yes, Juho has proved that he can fight only against himself in IRC. In MC he also proved that when the conditions are stable, then there is no match for him. Like I said at the end of last year, the only match for him in IRC was Meeke. Meeke also left to WRC and I cannot see anyone as fast and STABLE as Juho in IRC.
27th January 2011, 20:10
Tomi

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Originally Posted by pettersolberg29

I'm not forcing you to believe me - it's up to you. And Colin Clark is probably the most famous rally journalist in the world - does stage end reports for WRR and does TotalRally and occasionally writes in Motorsport News. I think he knows his stuff.
And you are obviously just giving us some bait to bite onto - Juho is a good driver, but Mikkelsen and Kopecky aren't novices and they can both handle a rallycar. Skoda would be foolish to pass over Juho, but then again Ford would be foolish to pass over Petter but it happened anyway. Politics are a bigger part of motorsport than most like to think.

So what is the team you are talking about then, please tell?
27th January 2011, 20:16
dimviii

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Originally Posted by MJW

Too soon to speculate what happens in 2012 before 2011 starts. Who knows maybe if Loeb is not comfortable in Citroen this year, he and the Red Bull sponsorship maybe VW bound. If VW come in what better way of short circuiting their learning curve than offering big money to Loeb and buy his knowledge and experience? Maybe Loeb wont feel so comfortable in "his team" this year and a big top up to the retirement fund by signing a two year VW deal could be in the offing.
Whoever else is at VW I think Hanninen will be there.

Ιn this scenario Ogier will be alone in Citroen? maybe Juho?
27th January 2011, 20:16
Hartusvuori

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Originally Posted by pettersolberg29

And Colin Clark is probably the most famous rally journalist in the world.

Martin Holmes, anyone? But I know Colin too.
27th January 2011, 20:49
RS

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Originally Posted by rp

We will see, but Juho has already during the last year showed what he is able to do... And there is no doubt that he is ready for the fight with the big boys. There is no sense for Skoda to send him to drive S-WRC unless there is a plan. During this year he and the BRR Skoda collect the information of the WRC events and this data will be the base of the VW´s WRC effort. Their planned Word Rally Car must be based to Polo and it will be rather easy to modify current Fabia Super 2000 to be this VW`s World Rally Car.

Exactly, I don't think Juho is in sWRC this year to learn how to drive or for the competitiveness of that series. In fact I think he rather has his eyes on some strong overall finishes in WRC rallies this year and of course learning those WRC events for the future.

Whether or not the future VAG WRCar is a Skoda or a VW, Fabia Polo or Scirocco the Fabia is a great test mule for the 1.6T engine.
27th January 2011, 21:10
pettersolberg29

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

Martin Holmes, anyone? But I know Colin too.

I suppose - I was thinking more along the lines of radio journalists, but I suppose not everyone listens to WRR or TotalRally. Holmes is probably the best journalist though, you're right.
27th January 2011, 21:15
pettersolberg29

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Originally Posted by Tomi

So what is the team you are talking about then, please tell?

You will know if/when it happens. If true then it won't stay quiet for too long!
27th January 2011, 21:24
BDunnell

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Originally Posted by RS

Whether or not the future VAG WRCar is a Skoda or a VW, Fabia Polo or Scirocco the Fabia is a great test mule for the 1.6T engine.

Well, Malcolm Wilson has said quite categorically that VW will be entering as VW.
27th January 2011, 21:27
MJW

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Well, Malcolm Wilson has said quite categorically that VW will be entering as VW.

I think you will find it was DR who said that at Autosport show.
27th January 2011, 22:09
BDunnell

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Originally Posted by MJW

I think you will find it was DR who said that at Autosport show.

And Wilson when asked on the Motor Sport magazine podcast in November.
27th January 2011, 22:25
AndyRAC

I read/ heard that VW were actually keen on a 1.4T engine formula - however, it would be good to see them in. Provided it was done properly - it's no good doing things on the cheap - you would hope the budget would be pretty big, the VW Group is in another league compared to PSA. (Although money doesn't guarantee success) I'm not sure about Al-Attiyah as a main driver mind you
The more marques the better - more drivers, more competition, hopefully more interest, etc
I also hope they seriously think about 3 car teams.
28th January 2011, 01:43
grugsticles

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

I also hope they seriously think about 3 car teams.

Amen. I seriously understand why they moved away from 3 car teams in the first place.
Money can be the only answer, but if someone, driver or sponsor is paying, whats the problem?
28th January 2011, 01:44
grugsticles

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyRAC

I also hope they seriously think about 3 car teams.

Amen. I seriously understand why they moved away from 3 car teams in the first place.
Money can be the only answer, but if someone, driver or sponsor is paying, whats the problem?
28th January 2011, 07:55
Daniel

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

Martin Holmes, anyone? But I know Colin too.

What he said! Colin might be well known, doesn't mean he's a good journalist.......
28th January 2011, 09:16
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by Daniel

good journalist.......

LOL...all journalists without exceptions are propaganda tools and nothing more.
28th January 2011, 09:23
Tomi

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Originally Posted by Daniel

What he said! Colin might be well known, doesn't mean he's a good journalist.......

Forum member Sami would be a good rally journalist, his rally reports and analyses is outstanding reading, VM should employ him right away.
28th January 2011, 09:35
cali

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Originally Posted by Tomi

Forum member Sami would be a good rally journalist, his rally reports and analyses is outstanding reading, VM should employ him right away.

Where is he nowadays, haven't seen him here for ages or have I missed something?
28th January 2011, 12:57
Francis44

Bruno Magalhães confirmed more 7 rally's on IRC this year, next is Canarias, Corsica, Belgium and the Portuguese rounds.

The rest of the program will be decided later.
28th January 2011, 13:28
RICARDO75

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

I read/ heard that VW were actually keen on a 1.4T engine formula - however, it would be good to see them in. Provided it was done properly - it's no good doing things on the cheap - you would hope the budget would be pretty big, the VW Group is in another league compared to PSA. (Although money doesn't guarantee success) I'm not sure about Al-Attiyah as a main driver mind you
The more marques the better - more drivers, more competition, hopefully more interest, etc
I also hope they seriously think about 3 car teams.

Soon Volkswagen will have a 1600 turbo engine in the market, in the new Audi A1 S1
Maybe, it´s possible that they use this engine on wrc.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/au...114f66e6766ca5
28th January 2011, 13:38
Mirek

If I'm not mistaken WRC engine currently tested in Fabia is race-purpose unit built by Oreca.
28th January 2011, 13:50
RICARDO75

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Originally Posted by Mirek

If I'm not mistaken WRC engine currently tested in Fabia is race-purpose unit built by Oreca.

But the engine built by Oreca could be based on the future engine that wiil be on Audi A1 S1.
Is it possible?
28th January 2011, 13:57
Mirek

Why would they start development of new stock-based engine when they already have special racing unit? (maybe my info is wrong though)
28th January 2011, 14:46
MJW

The 1.6 T engine you are refering to is a diesel.
29th January 2011, 17:27
OldF

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

I read/ heard that VW were actually keen on a 1.4T engine formula

The WRC regulations says that “the nominal cylinder capacity of the car equipped with the kit
(Super 2000 Rally Kit Variant) is limited to a maximum of 1600 cm3 (turbocharged engine) and group R regulations that:

“R3T : jusqu’à / up to 1.600 cm3
(pas de coefficient de calcul de cylindrée / no cylinder capacity calculation coefficient).”

By this I see a smaller cylinder capacity engine than 1600 cc is allowed in WRC but I think you meant that 1400 cc would have been the max capacity.

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

I also hope they seriously think about 3 car teams.

Yes, very seriously.
1st February 2011, 01:37
Plan9

I think the VW Scorocco and Golf has a much too high center of gravity...ultimately i think it would make more sense for VW to enter the Polo into the wrc...
1st February 2011, 16:16
Barreis

+1
1st February 2011, 17:04
Juha_Koo

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Originally Posted by Plan9

I think the VW Scorocco and Golf has a much too high center of gravity...

VW Scirocco and high center of gravity don't even fit into the same sentence...
1st February 2011, 17:09
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by Plan9

I think the VW Scorocco and Golf has a much too high center of gravity...ultimately i think it would make more sense for VW to enter the Polo into the wrc...

LOL....nice...
1st February 2011, 19:56
pucky54

Ogier crashed DS3 WRC during tests today?!?!?!
1st February 2011, 20:04
dimviii

source?!!
1st February 2011, 20:13
6789

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Originally Posted by dimviii

source?!!

Paddocknews on twitter said he crashed, no hyperlink at all
1st February 2011, 20:14
Barreis

Found this on Twitter..
1st February 2011, 20:19
dimviii

Lets wait to be confirmed from somebody genuine
1st February 2011, 20:24
N.O.T

you guys consider crashing in testing rare and post it ??
1st February 2011, 20:44
pettersolberg29

No, but if its badly damaged it may mean one less DS3 for Sweden?
1st February 2011, 20:47
nr7wave

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Originally Posted by pettersolberg29

No, but if its badly damaged it may mean one less DS3 for Sweden?

Probably not. I think they have one dedicated test car, so it should'nt be a problem.

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