ADAC Rallye Deutschland 2013

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Originally Posted by Kielder

I was trying to find it out on the GE too, just for curiosity. We reached the same conclusion :) . Obviously, it was impossible for them to return to the route at the same point where they went out, so they weren't punished. It looks like there is some kind of path there, which explains that the car didn't have many damages.

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shame there's no street-view, but this is the place. extremely lucky to find this path and no serious damage to car.

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Originally Posted by Leon

Good morning to all. could not follow the rally but just finish reading this thread. thanks for all the info. reading it is better than any report...
Some general thoughts about the drivers:
Happy for the once called wonderboy Sordo after gaining his first WRC win.
However I cannot explain why I remember the pictures of Puras sole WRC win in Corsica when I see him.
Hope this win is not his last as well as his last year as a WRC driver.

On the other hand congratulations to Neuville. I watch him live a couple of times, I enjoyed his style (in IRC Cyprus 2011 it was McRae style, crazy, spectacular drive) and I had big expectations of him but what he did at Citroen last year and at the beginning of this year with Ford, made me think that he will end up as Thiry – Duval – Loix……So I’m glad about his resurgence and I hope he becomes an Ogier thread. The WRC needs that. I quess his biggest “problem” is where to go next year.

About unguided missile Novikov only one comment…bring Giraudet back…

So Ogier can go off without pressure from Loeb… good for the WRC if this becomes a habit :)
Latvala. Fed up with him…. If only Paasonen/Mokkonen had the opportunities he is getting… (ok this is too personal :) )
Hirvonen. Again a good 2nd , point scorer driver waiting for others mistakes….
Ostberg: bring on 2014 asap
Kubica: really wondering what he can do on asphalt with a WRC
Evans: better than his father?
And some final thoughts/questions. Is Ford an easier car to drive than the DS3 or is it just the environment in the two teams that affects the psychology and thus the performance of the drivers?
What is the thing/things that Latvala - Novikov still missing to be more consistent and have more results – less crashes? Is it just psychology, concentration ability?
At the beginning of their WRC careers Ogier as well as Neuville were fast but erratic. What was the change that made them “turn the corner” with their performance? Different notes? Psychology?

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I agree on most of your points.

But - one small thought: How would you have described Neuville if he´d been stuck after the off on the last stage?

Just playing around.. ;)

http://i41.tinypic.com/2inqjk.jpg

Sordo not safe:

"Citroen World Rally team boss Yves Matton warned that victory in Germany might not be enough to secure Dani Sordo's future."

Citroen warns Dani Sordo future not secured by Rally Germany win - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com

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Originally Posted by noel157

Sordo not safe:

"Citroen World Rally team boss Yves Matton warned that victory in Germany might not be enough to secure Dani Sordo's future."

Citroen warns Dani Sordo future not secured by Rally Germany win - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com

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Of course not. If VW weren't out, he and Neuville would fight for podium only

same place with Novikovs exit


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhKw9...ature=youtu.be

different camera from Neuvills exit
http://fbcdn-video-a.akamaihd.net/hv...e6c7db6cf4069f

Sordos papa with Neuvilles papa,before the fight.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSgvI_MIMAAJ9fY.jpg:large

Sordo arrives on the airport.

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads7/521...42e7-sordo.jpg

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Originally Posted by dimviii

Sordos papa with Neuvilles papa,before the fight.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BSgvI_MIMAAJ9fY.jpg:large

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Their sons, after the fight:

https://sphotos-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/h...07338307_n.jpg

Though the photo that sums up both Sordos' feelings is this one:

https://sphotos-b-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/h...70996611_n.jpg