Loubet??? What for? I honestly don't understand how RB pick some of their athletes. Some make absolutely no sense (Fourmaux), yet there are others who you think should be, and they're not.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
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Loubet??? What for? I honestly don't understand how RB pick some of their athletes. Some make absolutely no sense (Fourmaux), yet there are others who you think should be, and they're not.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Yes, Bernardo Sousa has more instagram followers than some of those.
Pic of Keiron Bowness
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fmm5ysnW...pg&name=medium
Same reason Breen became an 'athlete'. He's no longer Red Bull.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Because the stickers were on the cars.
It happened with Lappi, Suninen and countless others. They were considered an athlete only as long as they were driving for a team that had a deal with Red Bull
seems they wont colour the roof scoops in drivers national flag colours. Ott has his OT signature and Loubet has AEC racing Team?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Yes but for some others it is the other way around.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
They get RedBull cap and are RedBull athletes with some support (likely not very big), yet there is nothing on the car itself.
Haha that Mr Bean picture is so accurate! :)
I think Solans was such kind of driver. RedBull never appeared on his cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
There are a lot of guys like that. Actually most of Rally1 drivers are Red Bull athletes. Rovanpera, Ogier, Evans, Sordo, Katsuta... Also Rally2 drivers like Mikkelsen, Cais, Gryazin, Fourmaux still.. And none of them have Red Bull on the car.
That's strange. What kind of advertisement is it when nobody knows about it?
They wear the cap during interviews. You're so used to it you don't notice.
Yes, as seb said, it's all about keeping that Red Bull logo on people's eyes. You see Red Bull logo during interviews, you see it on onboard footages, you see Red Bull logo everytime, everywhere.
You may not actively be noticing it. But when Kalle won title last year or Ogier year before, the first thing you can see after doors of their car opened was Red Bull branded logo. And when they got out, they put a Red Bull cap on their had. And all these things are on all the images.
And I haven't still bought a can of RB for at least 15 years, maybe more.... Nor haven't bought a Monster or any other kind of energy drink
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They had over 8 billion euros revenue in 2021 so it works for some people. Like others posters have said their strategy is to have the brand always on show and associated with success and extraordinary events. I'm sure there are people who drink 1 or 2 a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
I'm well aware of this. Just to point out that although I'm not the target group, I'm still thankful they have invested so much over the years in rallying.Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
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Yeah, you are not the target group. Target group are people that are tired, go to store and buy the brand they know most. Or people drinking vodka and red bull hah
M-Sport paying tribute to Ken Block
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Longer vid by Red Bull how the livery is wrapped on to the car https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4sTLtCpdCs
Now that Monte is basically over for M-Sport, has anyone else heard this rumor that M-Sport will come to Otepää's Winter Rally and use it as PET for Sweden? Or it is too late for that?
We don’t even have winter here at the moment
When is it planned?
I really doubt so
If this year's opener opposite (in terms of M-Sport's result) to last year, we can be hopeful the rest of the year will also be the opposite? ;)
Do drivers get an helmet deal?
we can see Ott using Stilo helemet and Pierre-Louis using Bell helmet?
So obviously it's not an team deal.
There is winter at the moment (if you mean temperatures) but let's see how it is going to be in a couple of weeks. Weather forecast looks quite OK-ish.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Otepää Winter Rally should take place on 4th of February.
Wilson said to Autosport that M-Sport won't enter national rallies. It's a question of funds.Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
They have to wake up from the winter vacation.
No updates and still the same old problems and gremlins
yup, have heardQuote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
There are updates. Chris Williams talked about new parts for aero, engine and other parts but he wasn't too specific, unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
where did you read that interview btw?Quote:
Originally Posted by sinepikohv
I guess they are/were also waiting Tänaks feedback before going on with the updates
Was Ott Tanak sandbagging through Saturday/Sunday?
That was the question on my mind when he "suddenly" found 19 seconds in 15km on the final stage of the event.
Tanak is obviously an intelligent man. He seemingly worked out he didn't have the package to take on the Toyotas without serious risk and elected to play a percentage game. Saturday afternoon and early Sunday, he must have been cruising waiting to assess the Pumas real potential on the power stage. And register some useful championship points.
Get the feeling he will have worked out the true potential, and based on that, we will either see a bullish positive Ott, or a sulky withdrawn individual in the next event. My suspicion is that it will be the former.
He wasn’t sandbagging.
On Saturday he had the power steering problem the whole day apart from first stage.
And on Sunday he just preserved his tires for the PS stage.
And all in all, he just wanted to make sure he gets decent points on the table. Seems the past 3 years with 0 points made him really scared for this event. At least it Seemed so to me
On Sunday yes, but on Saturday he had a power steering issue. IMHO the times were OKish on Saturday with the issue he had.Quote:
Originally Posted by 240RS
But Finnish and Dirtfish "experts" only looked at the times and thought that Tänak was a shadow of himself. Yes, Ford is behind but we have to remember that this was the first rally for him in Puma. On Thursday I think he did really well. Even Kalle said that it was difficult to open the road because of the salty (dusty) tarmac. On Friday, the set up was wrong as the car wasn't racy enough (clearly some understeer). On Saturday he got his set up a bit better but it was hindered by the power steering issue. And on Sunday, he saved his tires for the PS. Overall, I don't think the situation is bad. They are behind and there is work to do but looking at how Hyundai was driving then I think Puma has more potential. At least Tänak said he feels comfortable and now is a matter of set up and getting some updates.
Honestly if M-Sport can eliminate their technical gremlins, then I’m sure it won’t be long until we’ll see Tänak on that top step of the podium. Besides, he always said that the objective was to finish Monte-Carlo with points, it was pretty obvious he wasn’t going to risk it all like he would’ve done back in his Toyota days.
Ott Tanak has conceded M-Sport faces “quite a big job” to close the gap to World Rally Championship rivals Toyota and Hyundai, but is confident it can be achieved.
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...vals/10423675/
That mid corner understeer eats up the tires and doesn't give the driver much confidence to push.
Just to remind that this same mid corner understeer took out Adrien and Craig in Ypres in the same corner. Both of them started to correct the input in mid corner and at some point steering was in a full lock but it didn't save them.
Someone here mentioned this in the forum earlier as well that the Puma turns in well but then suddenly loses grip which results in heavy understeer. That's what I'm seeing as well. Chassie and/or suspension modifications needed imho though I'm no engineer
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Strange how happy Loeb was with the Puma in Monte 2022 straight out of the box. And he made literally no set-up changes at all during the rally...
Loeb is not 9 times world champion because of luck...