[WRC] Rallye Monte Carlo 2022

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Originally Posted by MentalParadox

Is this kind of dehumanizing language permitted around here? I don't like being called a "sick dog" just for posting a lukewarm comment in defense of Ogier. I'm not even a hardcore Ogier fan, I've always wanted Thierry to win.

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No its not permitted by lesser users so do not use it...

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Originally Posted by MentalParadox

I understand believing Loeb is better than Ogier, but calling him a "retired LOSER sick crying dog"? Like, okay...? And I got flak for saying "RIP Fourmaux" (in obvious jest), but this is okay around here?

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The guy had been banned, somehow he popped up again, rest of the forum doesn't speak like that.

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Originally Posted by NOT

There is ONE absolute GOAT in the sport and then there is a retired LOSER sick crying dog that nobody will miss ever apart from a bunch of "people" (newflash: they are not humans) that the only reason they support the sick crying dog is because the absolute GOAT beat their favourite drivers again and again AND AGAIN during his reign and they feel hurt like sick dogs without an owner...

"sometimes there is justice in the sport"

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Just wow... go outside and enjoy some fresh air.

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Originally Posted by MentalParadox

...but this is okay around here?

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You can report him and move on, he'll probably be banned soon enough again.

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Originally Posted by dimviii

For me that is a reason why i always had prefered Loeb over Ogier.
Loeb always down to earth,never blaimed anybody,never moaning,and the biggest reason is that when he was loosing a rally never told excuses. He just said that this weekend Gronholm ,Ogier,Latvala etc was simply faster.

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Also throughout the first stages, Isabelle was quite off the pace with her notes, first stage too fast, second often late. You could hear the direct feedback towards her at the end of the stages. It's not surprising given her limited experience with fast cars and drivers, that there was a bit of a struggle to start with. He never mentioned any of it in the stage-end interviews even while it visibly frustrated him. There is a lot many people can learn from Loeb, not just rally drivers.

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Originally Posted by cali

And it shows how much hold Loeb has over Ogier. He almost never makes mistakes and in the end a little choke was all the Maestro needed....was caused by his presence

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Yep, Ogier has own complex for Loeb. Always focusing on him.

Since we have the forever Ogier vs Loeb debate....

For me Ogier has better results (with 3 different manus and complete domination over everyone including Latvala in VW).
Loeb could have possibly gotten as good results, but "sadly" for him the competition was rather thin during some of his career and he never had to change teams.

On a personal level I agree that Loeb doesn't have same excuses for everything like Ogier.

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Originally Posted by mknight

Yep, Ogier has own complex for Loeb. Always focusing on him.

Since we have the forever Ogier vs Loeb debate....

For me Ogier has better results (with 3 different manus and complete domination over everyone including Latvala in VW).
Loeb could have possibly gotten as good results, but "sadly" for him the competition was rather thin during some of his career and he never had to change teams.

On a personal level I agree that Loeb doesn't have same excuses for everything like Ogier.

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The competition for Loeb was arguably less, because he was a level above everybody.

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Originally Posted by tommeke_B

+1
Also throughout the first stages, Isabelle was quite off the pace with her notes, first stage too fast, second often late. You could hear the direct feedback towards her at the end of the stages. It's not surprising given her limited experience with fast cars and drivers, that there was a bit of a struggle to start with. He never mentioned any of it in the stage-end interviews even while it visibly frustrated him. There is a lot many people can learn from Loeb, not just rally drivers.

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at French forum who can understand their language through onboards said that some times she was totally lost with notes,and find the correct note after some time.
Can understand her pressure of course.

Maths lesson will be fun for the kids this week. If a Ford Puma travelling at 100kph crosses the line.... who is leading the championship?

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Originally Posted by dimviii

at French forum who can understand their language through onboards said that some times she was totally lost with notes,and find the correct note after some time.
Can understand her pressure of course.

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And that fact makes Loeb even bigger. As person and driver.