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well then Alonso only has his team to blame.because they cost him dearly. Yes the mistake was his, but the bigger mistake was made by the team. I sincerely doubt Todt would have made that same judgement. Alonso cannot be happy about this. Then again he could have given the spot back himself and then showed the world he could take kubica again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malllen
I don't understand why they didn't give the place back, it was cutting a corner plain and simple. It was obvious that they were going to get a penalty. Something is wrong when armchair enthusiasts can call a situation better than professionals.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
After watching the incident a few times, I have mixed feelings. At first it seems obvious that Alonso passed by cutting the corner. But looking at it over again, Kubica did not leave him any room on the track. It was either touch wheels or cut the corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
This ruling sets up a precedent. If you are being overtaken on a corner, force the other driver off the track. If he happens to come out ahead of you, he'll have to give you the position back. If not, then you have succeeded in keeping him behind.
It's a kind of gray area that needs to be straightened out. If you can't attempt an overtake because you might go on the grass (or whatever) and have to give the position back, then why bother? F1 will become more processional.
I can see a big difference in two cars battling for position when there is not enough track for both of them so one runs off the track and the obvious cutting a corner by late-braking and straight-lining the turn to pass.
Drivers do have to race to make the sport interesting for us fans. Look at the classic battle of Dijon 1979 between Villeneuve and Arnoux - how many times were those drivers off the track with all 4 wheels?
If nobody is to cut anymore corners, I suggest the FIA install armco around each circuit like at Monaco and we can all watch a parade of pretty colored cars every two weeks.
Pretty much my point earlier, except it appearred to me from the onboard that they bumped...but clearly he went off course not because he could not make the corner but to avoid contact or as a result of contactQuote:
Originally Posted by wmcot
It was a racing incident and therefore a grey area. Ferrari were within their right to allow the stewards have the final say and certainly not on the advice of Charlie Whiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcot
A disappointing race in many ways, as can sometimes happen, but the driver keeps fighting!
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85243
Bravissimo! A fighters heart, not a mangiatore del gelato!
But the stewards should have a very limited time to correct problems like this. I suggested in another post that they should have 3 laps to make their decision (but they should have made this one in 15 seconds or less.) I think that's fair - drivers have 3 laps to serve their penalty, stewards should have 3 laps to determine if there should be a penalty. If it takes longer than that, it must not be a definite infraction so the racing should carry on. No more of these "incidents to be investigated after the race" garbage!Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Ferrari need to replace Alonso next year, or accept that they not are a top brand in F1 any moore.
So you are saying that if Ferrari got rid of Alonso they would suddenly be back at the top of F1 again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mia 01
Are you just making up posts because you are bored or are you on something? If so, please share with the rest of us!
She will claim that anyone in a semi-decent car needs to be sacked and replaced by Kimi, while ignoring the fact that Kimi just isn't interested in F1 anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcot