WRC mainclass from 2027

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Originally Posted by PLuto

Nothing like Rally2+ doesnt exist...

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Let´s invent Rally2+ then... ;)

Why is everyone so obsesed with Rally2+ when it was made clear for some time that it won't be a thing and WRC27 will be on same level as Rally2s and will replace them long term?

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Originally Posted by M3 Jambo

If you cap the performance of the WRC27 cars to a level close to the current Rally 2 cars, whats the incentive for Toyota to continue to invest so heavily in their 27 car, and indeed other manufacturors & constructors.

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They can enter with a car that isn't based on 'supermini' size/shape car (see Yaris, Fiesta, i20, Fabia etc in Rally2, all based on road going cars of that size)

Also it wouldn't be capped forever. Just until there is a clear path from promoter and enough teams with WRC27 car.

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Originally Posted by deephouse

I think they will fill the gap with combined categories untill FIA actually find promoter and "constructors" actually decide to come and start building cars. This could last a few years if we consider how quick the things are decided here in our beloved sport.

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There will be no new promoter. There will be only new investor, but promoter will stay same...

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Originally Posted by PLuto

Nothing like Rally2+ doesnt exist...

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Thanks, sorry everybody for dragging that back.

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Originally Posted by BobJones

They can enter with a car that isn't based on 'supermini' size/shape car (see Yaris, Fiesta, i20, Fabia etc in Rally2, all based on road going cars of that size)

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Nothing but their own intelligence prevented them from building a non supermini Rally2 before either.

WRC27 is designed to not only become the new top class, but to give the customer market that is currently in Rally2 a future. Manufacturers aren't building small cars any more which would be a viable base for Rally2,so that category, as successful as it is, is on borrowed time, kind of like Group N was somewhere around 2008/09 or so.

For someone like Toyota who looks to be involved long term it is necessary to build a WRC27 car even if it will be held back to Rally2 standards at first, because it is the only chance this ruleset has. If Toyota is there and a few private constructors + M Sport is there with WRC27 cars by 2028, the FIA can split the classes apart again until Rally2 as we know it now dies. And maybe the whole thing ends up working and attract other manufacturer(s).

If Toyota would be phoning it in with their Rally2 the ruleset is dead and in about three years, maybe five if we are lucky we would be back to square one and looking to replace Rally2 as it is dead by then purely because manufacturers can't/won't sell sensible cars any more at all by then (at least in european markets).

Question is if WRC27 regulations is a win. I dont have so positive feeling...

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Originally Posted by PLuto

Question is if WRC27 regulations is a win. I dont have so positive feeling...

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Of course. I'm not happy about a lot of things in the new regulations but, the sport is in lots of trouble in regards of possible base cars so....