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13th November 2011, 20:36
bluuford

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Originally Posted by Mirek

I would not go into details as we haven't seen whole agreement but otherwise I fully agree that it's dangerous game for the public picture of BMW/Mini brands.

Well, there are two sides. They have thrown the towel and all possible sponsors have seen what the Mini car is capable of. So, it is kind of free commercial and now they have some time to search the sponsors and if they are not successful, then they can pressure Mini/BMW to invest little bit more to do the whole season (not to damage their reputation). It is kind of good pressure, as long as BMW gets positive TV time etc. it is good and theyarehappy. When Prodrive asks them if they want to continue that good show or risk with damaged reputation, then the decision might be very much biased to the positive direction for Prodrive I must say.
13th November 2011, 22:47
Sulland

Must say I am impressed with what Mini has achieved in 2011. Espesially on asphalt they are up there, but it was easy to see today in Wales that they have to short suspension in tough gravelroads, and that some of the beating for Meeke must have really hurt. So imo his speed today is even more impressive due to that.
14th November 2011, 00:27
Plan9

I'm looking forward to seeing its speed in Sweden. I hope they will be able to test for it because if they don't it will be difficult. I think that the customers will be financing a fair bit of Prodrives budget next year. Does BWRT and Motorsport Italia get testing opportunities?
Are there any more customers in the pipeline?
On GB 2011: I think that Meeke and Mini showed that they can be competitive on all surfaces.
14th November 2011, 09:48
noel157

The March 1st 2012 homologation upgrades should give the car the extra 1/2 sec / km that they need. If all goes well a win next season could well be possible.
14th November 2011, 09:58
cali

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Originally Posted by noel157

The March 1st 2012 homologation upgrades should give the car the extra 1/2 sec / km that they need. If all goes well a win next season could well be possible.

1. 0,5 sec is a figure on paper, reality could be different
2. Don't you think that other teams will also develop their car further?

I like Mini and would like to see them win at least one rally next year, but reality has proven itself to be more different than the simple figures on paper. I wish it all would be so easy :)
14th November 2011, 10:06
noel157

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Originally Posted by cali

1. 0,5 sec is a figure on paper, reality could be different
2. Don't you think that other teams will also develop their car further?

I like Mini and would like to see them win at least one rally next year, but reality has proven itself to be more different than the simple figures on paper. I wish it all would be so easy :)

It's not a figure on paper, it's reality.
Of course other teams will improve but Mini are starting from a clean sheet and therefore incrementals of improvement will be greater than Citroen or Ford.
14th November 2011, 10:30
cali

Quote:

Originally Posted by noel157

It's not a figure on paper, it's reality.
Of course other teams will improve but Mini are starting from a clean sheet and therefore incrementals of improvement will be greater than Citroen or Ford.

Well, not sure for the first part but hopefully Mini will improve more to see them fight for the wins and maybe the championship as well :)
14th November 2011, 10:41
Allyc85

Quote:

Originally Posted by noel157

The March 1st 2012 homologation upgrades should give the car the extra 1/2 sec / km that they need. If all goes well a win next season could well be possible.

I hope that includes a big engine upgrade as from where we were on Myherin the car looked so slow up the long hill compared to the Ford and Citreons :(
14th November 2011, 11:06
Sulland

What do you know of suspension travel length on Ford, Citroen and Mini? How much less travel does the mini have?
14th November 2011, 11:33
dimviii

Quote:

Originally Posted by noel157

It's not a figure on paper, it's reality.
Of course other teams will improve but Mini are starting from a clean sheet and therefore incrementals of improvement will be greater than Citroen or Ford.

Where did you see the 0,5sec/km.Because i see an average 1 sec/km.Rally cars don t win rallies at drawing tables.They win at stages.

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