Printable View
We may debate, what can be meant by the "passion" part, but certainly some interesting examples can be found from Enzo's 'era' as well. Despite Ferrari having basically the car-driver combo to beat in '75-'77, Enzo and Niki Lauda fell out in 1977. Another former WDC, who suddenly left Ferrari, was Surtees in 1966.Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
I guess we just see his driving in a different light. In 2008 Kimi gave up points on several occasions due to mechanical problems during the race, and at seasons end gave up position to help Felipe. In France he yielded first place to Massa when he had his exhaust problem, and in Monaco he suffered a drive through due to team infractions not of his doing. Combined with Lewis running into him on the pit lane in Canada, and his mechanical issues during qually in the season opener, Kimi really actually drove well all season. IIRC he set 9 or 10 fastest laps in 2008, which I'm sure is hard to do if you have no passion.Quote:
Originally Posted by pallone col bracciale
As for 2009 Felipe was beating him fairly until Felipe had his accident, but I don't think even the tifosi can claim that Ferrari had a competitive car as compared to the Red Bull and Mclaren cars.
As for sensible discussion, I don't see any need for anything else in most cases. Some here can actually just agree to disagree if it comes to that.
But if a car is competitive or not, it should not matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
Attitude and desire should not be car dependant. If anything, a poor car should bring more dedication from the driver. It is a very important part of the drivers input to the team.
On the current Ferrari situation, it appears that the upgrades are not special but have maintained the performance/position of the F10 in comparison to the Red Bulls.
I think that Fernando can score well if he has some good fortune.
Hopefully this weekend Ferrari will not be hindered by themselves, but of course this is always likely for the Scuderia...or by back markers....or by questionable ethics of another team.
Enzo was about as much an asshole as a person can be.Quote:
Originally Posted by pallone col bracciale
That could be true. Nice people do not make legend.
What does one say to such nonsense?Quote:
Originally Posted by pallone col bracciale
I am sorry if you do not agree. Life can be like this, sometimes, but respect costs little.
You will discover that there are quite a few people here when they cannot get their own way will become extremely disrespectful.Quote:
Originally Posted by pallone col bracciale
And over the past few days I have been subject to this as well.
Unfortunately not much is done about it usually by the moderators as there are those here permitted to break the rule.
My guess is that to become very successful in life, at times you have to take unpopular decisions, although they are the right decitions, that may make you look like not such a nice guy. But you know that, so...Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker