ADAC Rallye Deutschland 2013

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Originally Posted by tommeke_B

In my opinion he is far from there, in contrary to what many people here believe. Elfyn Evans was much more impressive than Kubica imo. Kubica his lines often looked strange, and on some places we were he lifted the throttle where top WRC (and S2000 like Paddon) drivers did not...

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Now that is a strange comment! If Paddon's driving was so good, why were his stage times so bad? With such a great experience in WRC Paddon finished 4 minutes behind Kubica. How can he be any reference for you? ;)

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I would like to see him in an R5 next year to see his true speed against other top drivers, hopefully in the European Championship.

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That would be a dream. But I think Citroen would prefer to have Kubica in WRC rather than ERC.

Congratulations Robert and Maciek!!! :up:

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

To be honest I also expected more from Kubica in Germany. He was driving somewhat like on gravel Rally.

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He finished 5th with RRC car...

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Originally Posted by Jarek Z

Now that is a strange comment! If Paddon's driving was so good, why were his stage times so bad? With such a great experience in WRC Paddon finished 4 minutes behind Kubica. How can he be any reference for you? ;)

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To be fair Paddon lost 2 minutes due to loose alternator belt and also the atmospheric car is probably slower.

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

Yes, he did won, but I got used to better asphalt rallies for him. Too much sideways here on lot of places.

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In the interview that Kubica made after the rally he said that to him it wasn't a proper tarmac rally. There was much more mud and dirt on the road than he expected and much more than in the Italian and French rallies that he is used to.

And driving sideways is not a bad thing at all :D

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Originally Posted by Jarek Z

Now that is a strange comment! If Paddon's driving was so good, why were his stage times so bad? With such a great experience in WRC Paddon finished 4 minutes behind Kubica. How can he be any reference for you? ;)

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Your comment is strange, maybe you didn't read what I commented on... I said to think Kubica is far from there (meaning level of a works driver), considering what I've seen from him (not the stage-times behind a computer screen, but driving style). Of course what caught my eye is only a very small percentage of the SS kms that have been run... Kubica is a fast driver for sure, but how fast??? We'll only know if there is a proper driver in equal (which means in this case same, so DS3 RRC) car in equal conditions... ;) Also I compared the driving style to top WRC cars AND S2000 cars like Paddon, so not Paddon only... ;)

About Paddon, his stage-times were not all that bad. He did several fastest times in WRC2, and again, there is no real reference for the cars compared to each other...

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Originally Posted by Mirek

To be fair Paddon lost 2 minutes due to loose alternator belt

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Now that is an attempt to look for an excuse :D

There were 15 stages and Kubica was faster than Paddon on 11 of them. Did Paddon's belt fall off 11 times? :D

What about this fact, Kubica was 10s faster through Moselland 2 than Ogier last year? Same length, same direction of the stage.

This is WRC or what? This is safety???? There could be much more sad news....
If this rally stay like this next year, better calendar of 2014' without Deutschland.....
Sorry, people stupid, organizer stupid...... :mad:

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Originally Posted by rallyfun

What about this fact, Kubica was 10s faster through Moselland 2 than Ogier last year? Same length, same direction of the stage.

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Compare Kubica to the "biggest german talent since Röhrl". He destroyed Wiegand completley. Btw when was it the last time, that a driver became 5th overall in his first tarmac WRC round and his fifth WRC rally?

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Originally Posted by Jarek Z

In the interview that Kubica made after the rally he said that to him it wasn't a proper tarmac rally. There was much more mud and dirt on the road than he expected and much more than in the Italian and French rallies that he is used to.

And driving sideways is not a bad thing at all :D

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I guess mud is not according his driving style ;)