How Molly Taylor crashed her new Ford Fiesta Rally3 in Estonia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1FNEpQQycs
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How Molly Taylor crashed her new Ford Fiesta Rally3 in Estonia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1FNEpQQycs
Nice slide by Oscar Solberg in the Rally3.http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/61013e1b...6458660600.mp4
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So now it looks like teams and drivers will have 3 cars to choose from in 2022.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/renau...am-in-juniors/
Who of the 2 new brands will have their car ready first?
Edit: And if Renault comes in, it will surprise me if PSA dont make a 208 Rally3.
Good speed from https://www.ewrc-results.com/profile...-byskiniewicz/ in poland. 11 total after first day.
no PSA anymore, it´s FCA nowadays. Their Rally2 is Citroen and Rally4´s are Opel and Peugeot, so Rally3 could be DS, Fiat or Lancia just for marketing reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
It's not FCA/PSA, it's Stellantis:)Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Its 12 brands, and a motorsportguy in charge.
Different brands in all classes inside a couple of years:)
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Yep! Stellantis it is, my mistake!Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
I really hope they will build car for all classes Rally1-5 + RGT.
Sounds like something the doctor should prescribe you something for.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
Byskiniewicz finished Rally Rzeszowski in the 10th position. Not bad!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordini
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/6...eszowski-2021/
https://www.ewrc-results.com/image/6...?entry=3088456
Stellantis has 2 rally4 cars, from Opel and Peugeot.
So far the 208 have sold better than the Corsa. But it was first on the market, and got a few cups that brings numbers up.
If you were to decide on who of them you should use for development of a rally3 car?
Would you go for 208, Corsa or maybe both?
Or some of these others?
Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Citroën, Dodge, DS, Fiat, Jeep, Lancia, Maserati, Opel, Peugeot, Ram and Vauxhall.
I will guess maybe half of this brands is suitable for rallying marketingwise.
I guess different in every class, the new Stellantis boss do both rally and racing private.
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Fiesta R3 has good potential. Torn is quicker than all R4 and grn cars.
He was also very spectacular.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordini
Any infomation on test for Yaris or Clio
Yaris Rally3 is not coming yet...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordini
Is it still coming ahead of a Rally2? I'm assuming so...Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
50/50 either WRC2 or WRC3 car (Rally2/Rally3)Quote:
Originally Posted by the sniper
Decision will be made after Rally1 is homologated.
Source JML last week in our local paper.
So seems pretty sure Toyota comes with both Rally2 and 3 cars. That is splendid, they just need to decide on what to build first.
Renault comes from a bottom up approach, they have Rally5 and 4, and is now coming into the 4wd world for the first time.
Lets hope both will succeed in Rally3!
I think MSport should use the window for when their car is alone on the market.
People in national series are now planning their 22 season, and for many Rally3 could be an option. But they are looking for the real potential, and that has to be demonstrated by a top driver coming down from WRC or WRC2, so they have a pedigree.
It is hard to try to talk the Rally3 up as an option, for drivers with old R5s or coming up from Rally4.
MSport need to put in Gryazin, Fourmaux or another top driver to give the car a real bashing, to show the difference to Rally4 on gravel, and to show it is a good option for gentleman drivers with old R5s they never will learn to fully utilize!
Great pace from Sami Pajari in this weekend's Finnish national rally, in his first 4WD rally. During the first six stages he was constantly faster than Group N Mitsubishis, and even faster than Riku Tahko's Hyundai R5! The roads were very fast, which generally should suit the big Mitsubishis.
Sadly the car didn't start this morning so he had to retire.
https://www.rallism.fi/content/fi/3/...etulokset.html
Latvala said in Finnish radio that Toyota won’t be having a lower class car out in 2022, earliest at late 2023
Where is the "Dislike" button? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Wow! He was even 7th overall on stage 6, faster than Asunmaa, Salo and Pepe Lopez!Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results...2021/?s=336629
https://www.ewrc-results.com/image/6...?entry=3136776
It was a night stage. Have a look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRgLoxgjExE
He did a simular thing in a winter rally with a rally4 fiesta (6th or 7th overall on a stage in a field of more than 20 r5 cars) so it's more the skills of Sami than the brilliance of the rally3 fiesta ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
It's a real shame if even those manufacturer's who claim to be really into the sport aren't rushing to support it at the lower levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Delay of another year or two of other Rally3 cars coming along could kill it as a viable worldwide championship catagory.
Ok, so we know Toyota, due to hybrid Rally1 postpone their Rally3 project at least one year to late 2023.
They have a large team both in Finland and Germany, so to put aside a Customer Team should be possible.
Any french members or others that have heard anything on the Renault Rally3 project. They do it in the opposite direction working their way up the pyramid.
If that project also is pushed to 2023/24 Ford will have the market for one or two seasons all to themselves. MSport Poland will be very happy if that is the case.
At least up here in the gravel and snow countries many are thinking about buying a Rally3 car, to go up from rally4 or coming from an old grN or grA car in national classes. They are becoming more and more expensive to maintain, and gets beaten by modern Rally3 cars, that in total becomes cheaper to run over a seson.
What about Hyundai? Now that their new Rally2 car is out perhaps that team have the time to take on a Rally3 project?
What classes has different nations put rally3 into nationally?
In its own class, or into existing class?
Rally3 will be the designated class of SM3 in Finland next year. This year it has been just Rally4/R2 cars
Lukasz Byskiniewicz was 10th overall and 1st in class 3 in the final results of Rally Swidnicki last week. There is still one rally to go in the Polish championship, but Byskiniewicz already won the championship of class 3. Congratulations!
Classification of class 3 (with one rally still to go):
http://www.pzm.com.pl/rajdy/2021/narastajacoRsmp/3.pdf
Final results of Rally Swidnicki:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/6...i-krause-2021/
Photo of the winning car:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/image/6...=3137044&car=0
Photo of the winning crew:
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/...ukasz-by-3.jpg
In Poland there is a separate class 3 for such cars:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
http://www.pzm.com.pl/rajdy/2021/narastajacoRsmp/3.pdf
At 1:00 you can see what happened to the other Fiesta Rally3 in Rally Swidnicki:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF4WXQZ-yJE&t=60s
Next season in 2022, Rally3 drivers can choose from 2 championship series; WRC3 and ERC Junior.
Has anyone yet signalled that they will compete in any of these series next season?
Is skoda working rally3 project?
Most likely not.
Sorry about this!
Skoda has very best rally2.
Chazel Technologie Course (France)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCAKEIxW...jpg&name=large
Any particular reason why not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
New Rally2Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
But I don't know a thing, it's just my guessing that they would not develop two cars at the same time.
TBF, Skoda's only experience with the lower tier rally (apart from S2000/Rally2) was the Fabia R2. And it was quickly overshadowed by Fiesta and the PSA duo.. (I think)
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