The more cars the better in my mind. That's at least how I've felt when I've been spectating for the last 10 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
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The more cars the better in my mind. That's at least how I've felt when I've been spectating for the last 10 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
To me it's logical move.. why to spend all the money on half ass event.. better keep it to some proper events
Damn there are some negative people in this thread.. depending on which weather service you use, it looks ok or half-bad. This is not an ordinary situation, but it's the one we have to work with.
+ Plenty of minus degrees at Likenäs, Östmark and Kirkenaer in the next couple of days, according to weather services. Then a couple of days of +1-2 degrees, and then back to -3 to -5 for the rally week. These three towns are all close to friday and sunday stages.
Ground frost and snow are present in all stages these two days. (EDIT, expect Torsby, of course) These should all be perfectly capable of being run, if weather services are correct.
- The trouble is saturday, where they need to water plenty the next four days, where temps will be -2 to -5 during the nights, to deepen ground frost and to make it last during warmer days in the weekend, and then back to -1 to -4 during nights at rally weekend. These will be difficult to keep maintained, and maybe they will be driven only once, who knows.
I say 25% chance to be run completely, and 75% chance to be run maybe a little shortened, due to saturday "situation"...
The forecasts I'm looking at don't show any minus degrees (or maybe -1°C here and there) in the rally area after tomorrow. There's also going to be some rain on the weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Entertainer
Like I've said before, I think the four northmost stages (Hof-Finnskog, Finnskogen, Nyckelvattnet and Likenäs) are fine, but the rest are uncertain.
where is bluuford when you need him?
180 km route
hekk yeah!
So they will drive the same route on friday and saturday ?
Either way I am happy if they are able to run it. My weather service still says really gloom stuff about it, but if fia and others say it is ok I count on them.
And full points.
oh those PR (((Quote:
The rally will include competitive action on all four days as originally scheduled....
...Saturday will follow an identical route (as Friday)
As it is written now the text doesn't make much sense. They say that they should run friday stages again on saturday but that alone is some 200 km + Likenås on Sunday is much more than 180 in total.
yeah i dont get that part too
AFAIK the route will be
Thursday
SSS1 Karlstad
Friday
SS2 Hof-Finnskog 1
SS3 Finnskogen 1
SS4 Nyckelvattnet 1
SS5 Torsby Sprint 1
Saturday
SS6 Hof-Finnskog 2
SS7 Finnskogen 2
SS8 Nyckelvattnet 2
SS9 Torsby Sprint 2
Sunday
SS10 Likenäs 1
SS11 Likenäs 2 (Power stage)
I assume they mean a single pass each day.
Give the road a chance to re-freeze overnight.
They don't repeat the Friday stages on Friday.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
I wrote quickly something to my blog: http://itgetsfasternow.com/2020/02/0...route-altered/
Atleast theyre now going ahead with the event, it can either go really bad or really good, cause weather is unpredictable.
imagine the frustration if the even was cancelled and there would be -10c during the weekend and snow..
let the testing begin now from tomorrow on!
When I put this together it makes up 171 km so maybe Torsby Sprint is a bit longer than planned or something? Anyway, they would need 225 km for full points but maybe they have a deal with FIA since it's a force majeure, and the points will be reduced from anything they cancel from this ie. 171 km is 100% and if two long stages are cancelled, it's down to 75% etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Well this seems a bit radical still. Looking at some of the weather forecasts and current thin layer of snow it looked like some of the Saturday stages could be run once at least. Cancelling all of them 1,5 week ahead is rather drastic. But I guess they don't want to end up with a Saturday that has no stages at all.
So much better than cancelling the whole event. Under these circumstances I'm more than happy with 180km.
Just unleash JML!
My forecast shows -4/-9 the week after the rally... unfortunate..
But maybe it will change, lets hope so!
Lol they are still running Karlstad. Would be "fun" with zero ice and snow.
It will be a mudbath. Maybe they calculated it's better to rebuild the area than cancel the biggest spectator attraction (and bring the rally to Karlstad, which is its financial partner)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
And this all stages that not cancel yet. Changing weather and all could be worse. Statement now that they try to do an event and not cancel a rest of 180km stages.
PS If it will be national event it will be canceled 100%
Anything is better than no rally. Hope it works out with the revised route.
Unlikely I know, but say the weather takes a turn for the better, could they again alter the itinerary to include the Swedish stages? Or even one pass of them?
It would be a bit of a kick in the teeth to have some originally planned iconic stages left out, when it turns out by rally weekend they could easily be run (at least once).
I don't think so, cause now that it was announced they won't be run they will stop all work on them (watering). Without that weather would have to change a lot for them to run even after nobody cared about them until the start.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
"FIA inspection confirms rally goes ahead!"
https://rallysweden.com/green-light-for-rally-sweden/
"Article:
FIA inspection confirms rally goes ahead.
Next week’s Rally Sweden (13 – 16 February), the second round of the FIA World Rally Championship, will go ahead following a positive inspection of the event route by the FIA on Tuesday.
Following unseasonably warm weather in the Värmland region of Sweden and across the border in Norway, FIA sporting delegate Timo Rautiainen inspected the special stages to check the conditions for the WRC’s only pure winter round.
His report was discussed by Rally Sweden organisers, the FIA, WRC Promoter and manufacturer teams this evening (Tuesday) and a route proposal has been agreed.
The rally will include competitive action on all four days as originally scheduled, with a modified itinerary to be finalised by organisers. The new timetable will feature about 180km of spectacular speed tests and full championship points will be awarded.
The rally will open on Thursday night with the traditional start ceremony and head-to-head special stage at the fan-favourite Karlstad trotting track.
Friday will feature a morning pass over Norway’s Hof-Finnskog and Finnskogen stages and the Nyckelvattnet test across the border in Sweden. The day will be completed by the Torsby Sprint stage, which finishes at the entrance to the popular event service park.
Saturday will follow an identical route and two passes over the Likenas stage will complete the event on Sunday. The second run through Likenas will form the live TV Wolf Power Stage.
“It’s fantastic to be able to confirm Rally Sweden will go ahead,” said event CEO Glenn Olsson.
“Many people have worked extremely hard over the last few days so that we can reach this position, and I’m delighted that fans, TV viewers and competitors will be able to enjoy one of the WRC’s most spectacular and fastest fixtures.
“We will welcome fans into the forests as planned. Those who are unable to attend the event in person will be able to enjoy live global TV coverage on Saturday and Sunday, as well as the live streaming of all stages on WRC+ All Live.”
I didn't know that about the gravel tyres. They can still use the same tyres just rip off the studs, I think it was some edition in 90's when drivers just got rid of their studs quickly. All that is good but destroyning the roards is not sounding well, we'll have a winter "Safari".Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Fredrik Gustavsson
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Has been an agreement between the teams to give full points
Well, I have worked with Rally Sweden forecast for at least last two weeks already (actually I started in Monte already). Initially it looked quite impossible, but on Monday morning I suggested that the only way it might work is to cancel all Saturday stages and run Friday leg in two mornings (cooler, some overnight freezing etc.) and Sunday stages as it was, depending on the conditions in Torsby stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Another suggestion is to start recce on Wednesday. So, if you plan to go and recce the stages, please avoid Sunday, Monday and Tuesday (maybe only early in the morning). There is some overnight frost, but likely not enough to recover from weekend rain and risk of destroying the roads is very-very high. There should be enough cold on Tuesday night to Wednesday, to make roads more solid. So, please try to be sensible!
In general, I would say that organizers have taken some proper risk, but this is the best and safest solution you can take for this year event.
And distance, 100% distance is decided before the rally starts (not sure at what point exactly, but I think it was before recce). Now, this 75% will be from this new itinerary. Of-course, FIA must agree with shortened route, but if it is like this, Force Majore, there is no other option.
Heard it was -12 in Øyermoen tonight just south of Nyckelvattnet and old Svullrya stage, something like -4 more than what was forecasted, If we are lucky there could be 10cm of snow in the area on Sunday/Monday, on the limit between rain and snow if you look up Svullrya on Yr.
Which of the 3 stages on friday/Saturday is the highest above sea level with the most likely best winter conditions? Any recommendations for new viewing points?
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Heard one of the stagecommanders was stuck inside one of the saturday stages because of mud, its not going to be drivable with the forecasts next week.
Good decision, norway saves sweedes a$$!:)
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In the fear of the event getting cancelled, Belgian Gregoire Munster withdraw from the rally. He will start another round, probably Portugal.
...and what about shakedown? canceled as well?
https://twitter.com/f_gustavsson/sta...878596097?s=21Quote:
Originally Posted by bearclaw
Although I don’t know how reliable it is
If you want to win, you have to participate. Even when it´s ruff. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex