if i remember correct ,its not the first time this trophy goes to a crew that didn t finish the rally.
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if i remember correct ,its not the first time this trophy goes to a crew that didn t finish the rally.
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incar of Tushkanovas crash
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Winning or the amount of days is not the issue on this Trophy. It's the fighting spirit that counts and Jon Armstrong was the bravest this weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Congratulations to Craig Breen on the win, great to see him genuinely emotional about that.
Impressed that Kajto managed to get so close to the home boy on his first attempt though. Also Charles Martin did a pretty solid job, was that his first drive in the R5?
Martin did this year already Touquet in the 208 R5. I am not so impressed..
Question to Craig Breen
It’s another win but it was far from straightforward. Can you explain what was wrong with your car and what about that spin on the penultimate stage?
CB: “We had a small niggly problem with the turbo which pretty much scuppered us in qualifying on Thursday and all of Friday. It was only at midday service today that we actually rectified the problem. To be honest with you they rectified the problem because they changed just about everything they could do. And finally after a process of elimination they fixed it for the last three stages. So we started our push and then on the second to last stage in Banbridge just after the start there was a fast left-hand corner at crossroads and a compression. On the first time we went through we filled the road and went away but on the second time we were a little too fast and spun and was very lucky not to do any damage to the radiator. Then on the last stage we had an overshoot about five or six kilometres into the stage. I stalled the car twice trying to get it restarted. Scott in fairness said ‘don’t stop believing now’ and I’ll never forget that. Then it was a bit of a push from then on in.”
http://www.fiaerc.com/news
impressed with Euan Thorburns pace and only 2nd time on tarmac in the fiesta s2000 first rally in ERC hope he gets budget for more ERC rallies
Barrable after getting stuck in the ditch
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Well, I donīt really know what the problem was never starting 2nd day. But ERC-live said he elected not to start. Electing should be he coosed himself. Why? Because of penalty of 5 mins?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ounin
Thatīs not fighting spirit for me. Rather the opposite.
I have to admit this was my first thought too. Toys out of the pram? No specified issue. Okay it costs money to compete but that's a big error to make and there has to be consequences. It's a shame because he was night and day ahead of the other much-touted juniors. Looked great out on the stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
He apparently had a mechnical issue on the 2nd Ards test, the last test of friday, this possibly was before the missed tyre check? Not sure on that as I have been told different versions of the story. Certainly he was pushing hard on fridayQuote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
can you share it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nornbugger
On Twitter he said that he picked a problem with gearbox (leveller) on last stage of Friday. Per, please be happy with Emil's victory despite him not being granted the Flat Out trophy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Just that I've heard that the missed check was before mech problem, and that it was after mech prob had occurred, sorry for being unclear.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
They are coming to Belgium for the ERC Ypres rallyQuote:
Originally Posted by cardy
yes Ive seen that hes doing ypres 2015 good news !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCKE
Well Teemu, Iīd appreciate more if you look at the odd things more than just being accusing. We all know what Emil done. And it has nothing to do with whom got the trophy. This man Armstrong did what others on this forum always says about homedrivers. He did good on home soil. And that is not enough getting a trophy. Not having in mind he even didnt want to drive the whole event even if he could. Thatīs from the official version.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
Emil has proven what driver he is. He doesnīt need the trophy. Sorry though for many other drivers being more worth the price.
I think Emil nor Jon deserved the trophy. It should have been in Barrableīs hands. It was the most notable performance of the weekend. I do not know how many people were expecting such performance from him. Just look at the pickems list. Noone put him first, 2 put him in second place, 10 to the third, 4 to the fourth, 10 to the fifth, 6 to the sixth, 4 to the seventh and 10 to the 8th.
I think that f.i. Jean-Pierre Nicolas of ERC knows exactly why he choosed Armstrong for the Flat Out Trophy. Of course everybody can have his own thoughts about this decision. And Emil has done a great job by winning the Junior class. Fact is that Jon Armstrong has done this rally for the first time so there weren't loads of home ground advantages as you recall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Still it was rallying where he has more experience than foreigners. But the price is more of politics maybe. Enough of that topic from me. Just thought it was a choice not many should have done. And again, my thoughts has nothing to do with Emil.
Greer finished the last stage with fire under the hood. After that, couldn't start the engineQuote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Yes, Greer retired.Quote:
Originally Posted by RICARDO75
Jon Armstrong missed absolutely first tyre marking zone. When you were starting the rally from TC 0, you must go to main road, turn to right and after 100 m turn to left to go to another parking for refuelling (and marking which was after refuelling). He didnt turned left, but was going directly via main road to the first stage...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nornbugger
Regarding the retirement - he put the car into parc ferme, but in the morning his mechanic picked it up. So I think it was his choice, but I was not talking to him yet about it.
Results in Ireland were disaster. We were joking in media center, that on Friday we had bad results, but on Saturday we had no results. But you must look positively - as I have lost patience with the results, I have decided to go for last loop directly to the stages to see the cars. After long time I have seen cars on real stage (unfortunatelly without Barrable, Thorburn and some others).Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
I was just talking to him. Missed tyre zone was like I wrote - they had full fuel tank, so they dont need to refuel it... Retirement on second day was due to issues with car.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Congratulations to Breen on his win as well as to Kajto for his excellent drive despite his first visit in Ireland!
I have just checked out final results of the national rally. I have to say I'm a little disappointed. Dessie McCartney and his Darrian T90 GTR only managed to finish in the 22nd position, behind many R2 cars and 30-year-old Ford Escorts :(
Bergkvist onboard on SS16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6hCa81Zl9w&app=desktop
and Armstrong on SS4
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This is probably the most improper "Flat out Trophy" since has been granted.
Why? When we were talking in media room about our tips for Flat Out Trophy, we were thinking about Armstrong or Barrable. So if the Trophy is going to one of them, almost nobody was surprised. And after his performance during first leg, I think that decision is not bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
IMHO Bergkvist was deserving it more than Armstrong, but for sure Barrable deserves it even more. Well, true Armstrong won most of the stages first day, but somehow Bergkvist was more spectacular from what I see from the onboards.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
EDIT: anyway I hadn't chance to watch the reports, so there is a chance my opinion not to be complete.
Armstrong had a 31 second lead over Bergkvist before he got his 5 minute penalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Bergkvist was going at a tremendous pace, so to take 30+ seconds out of him I'd say that must be pretty 'Flat Out'.
Well deserved in my opinion. The young lad must be devastated by their simple, innocent mistake.
He badly needs a haircut but he still looks like the quickest driver in ERC Juniors by some margin.
Not sure if serious...Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
too much talk about some prize that doesn't matter at all and nobody will remember in 3 days...
You cant be more 'flat-out' than someone else if they are faster... just being spectacular means nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
You must be fast and spectacular, like Chris Ingram who won the CMR Trophy here in 2014.
well I watched only 3 onboards from the rally, it looked like that to meQuote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
In terms of the Circuit of Ireland as a whole, it's great to see all the discussion about the achievements of the drivers and no more griping about foreign drivers not able to attend, or the local drivers not competing in the International (ERC) section.
The foreign drivers came and thoroughly enjoyed the challenge and the Irish & Brits have finally been able to afford the modern machinery (R5s etc) to take part.
The event was always fantastic in terms of its long history and the driving thrill of its roads. But now its has the driver participation to match, it truly deserves its place in a major rally championship.
That was not the point. My point was that speed is not measured by spectacle which is purely subjective thing anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
The event is great but the result system was a farce. The organizers must solve the timing issue for the next time because every second tier event in my country has way better and more reliable timing than 2015 CoI had.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
True. From what I saw from onboards though, Bergkvist style is little different, seemed more on the limit on some fast corners with some mud, it seemed little risky too, but probably this event requires "something else", while Armstrong on some slow corners seemed to drive very slow and not knowing how to get out of it. But I repeat again may be just some "moments" in the whole "picture".Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
For sure Armstrong was the faster of these two.
Where are these onboards? Can you show the links?
Thanks a lot
It was poor and unacceptable, especially in a country in which rallying is almost the national sport. I hope there will be an investigation and no repeat in future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Thankfully, at least following the rally online, there were end of stage times from Rally Radio and some excellent twitter feeds. I also found http://www.rallyscore.net/ wasn't so bad with split times available on all but the short street stages. :)
BTW, anyone found pic of a higher jump than this on the CoI ?
S.Moffett
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