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Used to look for to the start of every season through the 90s just to see the different evolution in cars and the different liveries. Your right, you don't seem to get that now which is a shame but with more manufacturers in the sport sponsorship may start to move freely once again creating a bit of variety among the teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOZIANracing
Michel Nandan said to Autosport that they will start testing in July with another evolution of the i20 WRC. Much of the engine work will be completed in Korea.
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Originally Posted by Mise
He is ok but a little bit to much of a NOBODY for me.
a very interesting interview with nandan:
Hyundai macht Ernst*:: rallye-magazin.de
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if something is not understandable in that google translation, ask me, i will translate it.
Looks like it wont be neccessary next year to homologate a S2000 1.6T (RRC) before the homologation of the WRC car (WRC kit).
Could it be a chance to develop in addition to the WRC, a RRC for national championships?
"Next year, the FIA change the rules, then you do not need more Regional Rally Car to build a World Rally Car. For us this is a good thing, because we can not concentrate so fully on the World Rally Car. In reality, the only benefit of RRC version to a WRC provides an afterlife. The i20 is the first true-WRC after 2014 Regulations.”
To build a WRC without having to homologate a S2000 1.6T first is a logical step to move into R5 direction. When R5 cars will be broadly available, who would bother to rally in a more-expensive-to-run-yet-slower S2000?
So, we're down to:
- WRC
- R5
- R-GT
- R3
- R2
- R1
You can forget about the R-GT too ;)
FIA yesterday decided to change R-GT regulations to attract manufacturers. Let's wait what they come with.
Now we are up to 4 x R5 cars confirmed when Citroen comes in today.
Is Fia running WRC for 1 more 3 year periode from 13 or 14? Why keep beating a dead horse. WRC has to few seats, and it will remain like that.
I have challenges understanding Hyundai building new WRC for 14.
or do anyone still believe todays WRC format will survive for long?
No news anywhere in what dampers they will use and whose transmission? I can`t find official news and nobody I talk to knows anything?
If anyone has this info than please share.. :)
OK transmission is only 2 options but the suspension..
If I'm not mistaken Peugeot started to use Öhlins dampers recently (on the new 208 R2): Before they built their own for the 207 S2000 I think. Citroën worked with BOS or built their own too if I remember. So we'll see what they use for the R5.
EDIT: Hups, You mean Hyundai, right? I think I heard somewhere they would use Sachs like VW but I'm not sure at all where the info came from...
The trans. is xtrac some chief said in interview 1-2 weeks ago they already have contract. for others parts they still negotiate
Jep meant Hyundai.. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Sachs / Xtrac sounds good - hope thats what they use...
If Hyundai wants to be fast and wants to drive in to the top 3 or top 5 then they really got only 3 drivers to choose between. Ott Tänak, Juho Hänninen, Kris Meeke
and P-G :D
P-G became 33 on Sunday, by the way :) Happy Birthday to him!
Citroen used EXE-TC suspension until recently, Im suprised citroen used british suspension...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Really ??Quote:
Originally Posted by wrc45
The 207 s2000 uses BOS dampers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Same goes for DS3 WRC
Yeah they normally like to keep everything on the car french!Quote:
Originally Posted by RJM
Ok, Paddon, who else then?Quote:
Originally Posted by sollitt
Breen, Neuville, Novikov, Ostberg (I don't know if the last 2 have a long term contract with Ford)Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
Breen is some way away yet from being a WRC pilot, and also not enough experience to develop a car yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
Then why are Tanak and Paddon mentioned ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
I think an experienced driver and a young talent are the best driver line up.
Breen would be on my list of up & comers manufacturers ought be looking at however I agree with noel157, there is some gap between him and Tanak/Paddon.
Don't be mistaken into thinking Paddon is young and inexperienced. At 25 he's got many years left in him but he's certainly not young, and he is far from inexperienced. In fact his resume' would rival both Ogier's & Loeb's at the time they were picked up by Citroen and he is not without testing and setup ability.
If manufacturers are to avoid a repeat of the Sebastion Loeb cycle they need to change their thinking and look outside of the current crop of WRC pilots, none of whom are winners.
Sadly, if recent reports are correct, Hyundai are destined to repeat the mistakes of others.
Everyone's forgetting one of the best car-developers in rallying: Juho Hanninen. He would perfectly suit this role!
Hanninen was mentioned earlier in this discussion. Nobody has 'forgotten' him. I'd certainly have him in the picture.
Hanninen would deserve a cockpit much more than Breen at the moment. Let´s have a another look when Breen can beat guys like Kopecky, Kubica and others in ERC
If we`re really precise Citroen never really directly bought dampers from Exe(except the first C4 :s ), they had a close collaboration, and after the first years with the C4 they mainly bought various parts and consult help from Exe-TC but assembled them in house, when they started with the DS3 they tested BOS but opted to do everything completely on their own, which is where they are at the moment..Quote:
Originally Posted by RJM
I think Hanninen and Paddon would make good team :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Motorsportfun
That was also my understanding - that they took various solutions from others but the final product was their in-house.Quote:
Originally Posted by AMSS
PG are the fastest driver in the world without a seat.... Of course he is 33, but whats the problem? Give him two seasons in a good car in wrc and he is at the top three at the end of the year.
Yes, most of the names mentioned were predictable.Quote:
Originally Posted by sollitt
Are they really going to make their debut in 2014 at Monte-Carlo? Have they learnt anything from VW? If I was running the team I'd have 2 cars ( any cars, even 2 R3 cars would be a start) running in the WRC so the team, drivers, mechanics, etc get used to each other on an event, and the logistics involved in a high pressure event.
yes thats exactly what i know too.Quote:
Originally Posted by AMSS
There are some stories they are going to debut in Wales 2013, even.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
I like your thinking Marcco.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcco
Lacking any obvious talent in Korea, wouldn't it be logical for Hyundai to have 1 European driver and 1 from the Asia Pacific region to reflect its diverse markets?
Not at all. It is logical only that they employ people who can win.
Chris Atkinson... who has won APRC....
Having witnessed Atkinson's recent results in WRC, I don't think his marketing value is very high.... :mark: