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Just for fun I put two pictures together in graphics program and it looks like there is nearly no difference. Just the nose of the MINI makes the look of suspension travel very different. If you draw the line from the front bottom until the back bottom of the car the there was no visible difference to my eye. Well, I must admit that I had very bad picture of DS3 as well.
Let's hope Prodrive, BMW and Mini are not reading this, otherwise we won't see the car make it's debut in Sardinia and will have to wait until Sweden 2012 because it will have to be redesigned and rebuilt. :)
Hi Mirek,Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Isn't the 30 mm restrictor used for national championships? The Mini SP that Armindo Araújo and Daniel Oliveira will use in Portugal won't have the 33 mm restrictor?
I think that the new Mini WRC (33mm restrictor) is not ready before Sardegna and therefore they are using SP with 30mm restrictor in Portugal. Entry list is also indicating the same.
Castrol has a central contract with BMW - all touring car, sportscars, even World Superbikes, have to use Castrol so it will be a small, supplier deal with Mini. Same deal with Ford for rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
If Vodafone comes, it will only be through Vodafone Spain deal with Sordo - Vodafone Global not interested in rally.
Santander money goes to Alonso in F1 (UK pays some to McLaren to advertise the change of Abbey National to Santander in UK). Might also be a small deal with Sordo.
This is what is not clear to me. If S2000 1.6T restrictor is same in WRC as in regional championships. I presume it is but I'm not sure...Quote:
Originally Posted by G. Morales
This as usual up to the ASN, if they allow WRC it is on. I do not think FIA can stop them, just recommend.
You didn't get the point. It's not about national championship but about WRC. The 30 mm size for S2000 1.6T is defined in FIA regional championship regulations which are not valid for WRC events.
So I had a closer look into regulations.
WRC regs say that restrictor size is given by Art.255A App.J International Sporting Code.
Art.255A App.J says that restrictor size is maximum 33 mm.
So my conclusion is that only FIA regional championship regulations include smaller 30 mm restrictor. If I get it right all 1.6T will have same restrictor in WRC, in this case G. Morales was right.
Regarding WRC and regional championship rallies I don’t think the local ASN can dictate the rules, they’re set by FIA. In national championship and other national rallies the local ASN can dictate the rules.
In GP Week, issue #105, was written that the aero package is mandatory for a WRC version but the rest is optional. As I see it in WRC events it depends on in which class (WRC = 33 mm restrictor = class WRC, SP = 30 mm restrictor = class 1 = SP / S2000) the competitor has registered for the event.
There is no word about 30 mm restrictor anywhere in WRC regs. or App.J. The only place where such number is written is regional regulations and those are meaningless for WRC events.
Yes I now that. But what I meant was that if a competitor wants to compete in a WRC event, he/she can choose in witch class to compete (WRC or class 1 = 1.6T S2000) and by that the restrictor would be either 30 mm or 33 mm.
BTW, I couldn’t find any mention about the 30 mm restrictor in both WRC and regional championship regulations. The only one is the press release from FIA of 11th of February. http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre...nal-rally.aspx
But as usually it will probably take few months for FIA to update this in the Article 255A.
I agree with OldF here. As far as i remember that has been the whole plan. A privateer can do what he want, and it should be flexible. You could do your national series in a SP spec car, but upgrade for the number of WRC rounds you want/ can afford, and if you are in SWRC in a SP you could upgrade the car to do a rally or two in WRC spec.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldF
But i also think to remember that class 1 in 2011 is S2000 NA only, but I might be wrong. Could have been SWRC that in 2011 will be NA
only.
I haven't said anything against that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
No, class 1 is S2000 1.6T, class 2 is S2000 2.0N/A + R4. SWRC is only for S2000 2.0 N/A + R4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
You are again correct Mirek (oh I hate it when he does that !), I will join you in your tavern for a Budvar !
Ah, I don't like Budvar that much. Better some more bitter like Pilsner :D
Is that Pilsner Urquell. I’ve heard that the best beer can be found in Czech Republic.
I thought the Belgium Trappist monks brewed the best beer ?
as far as i know, the best beer comes from germany, doesnt it? :p
No from Finland, Koff 7,5... :lips:Quote:
Originally Posted by darkstar
best beer comes from brittain...belgium,czech and germany only produce cheap lagers. you want real beer (ale) you go brittish...
Ale isn't really my thing, but theres a pub near me that has a tiny brewery underneath it, and people come from miles to try this beer. Me? I just go to the shop down the road:-)Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Ha, I love this, the prodrive mini wrc thread has turned into a beer thread:-) Says a lot about wrc fans :D :D :D
hehe, defently... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn6T6OzgrX4
Best beer is from Czech Republic , the Brits are more famous for higher percetange alcohols ( not really my thing ) ;) You see James Bond drinking martinis and whiskies , not beer :D
The best beer is NOT a lager, pilsner or similar it has to be a proper fuggles or golding hop and malted barley brew. So I'm prepared to vote for the very good Belgian Bier brun available in Flanders from the hypermakets at a rediculously low price for 7% content. Are we talking taste or bang per buck to judge the 'best'? Bang per buck has to be the 5% weiss bier I bought in Lidl in Trier for less than a euro per 500 ml can.............
HAHA! Minis new livery for 2012, Prodrive Duff Beer Mini Wrc:-)Quote:
Originally Posted by darkstar
Said man, who every year talks (only talks) about visiting Czech republic :) How you can judge if you havent dring czech beer? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
After strange design, name and starting numbers, I am looking forward what they will show us with livery. Maybe they will start with same livery as on tests? If not, everything is possible, including Duff Beer or portrait of Homer Simpson (or Paddy Hopkirk or Timo Makinen) on the bonnet...Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp
Sorry guys, the best beer is from Portugal! A lager named Super Bock! And we have it in "Mini" format (a bottle of 20 cl)!!
BTW, Armindo's livery will look really good, trust me!! For show next Wednesday...I hope!
damn....maybe this year then...maybe :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
guys lagers are not beers...lagers are lagers...the way of production is quite different in many ways from the materials used to the brewing and maturation process...do not confuse them.
nothing compares to a dark stout...
Since I OTd this thread, but the topic seemed to take off, pls continue the Beer discussion here: http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...300#post892300
so this one can go back to Mini.
Sorry about the derail ! :s mokin: :beer:
In official Armindo fans page on facebook (http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/FasArmindoAraujo):
Hi everyone! If you are reminded, we told you that we had a surprise saved for you.
Armindo Araújo wishes that all his fans can be able to watch next Wednesday, 2nd March, from 18.30, to is official presentation of WRC project 2011.
In order to don´t lose a minute of the presentation, were it will be exposed for the first time the colors of Mini Countryman WRC, all you have to do is go to the website www.armindoaraujo.com and see all in live stream.
Thank you all
No Acropolis rally for the official Mini's...
2011 programme for Mini announced: http://www.motorstv.com/car/rally/wr...2011-wrc-dates
The car won't be the "Countryman" but called the MINI John Cooper Works WRC and if they are only going to do 6 rallies, they won't be able to score Manufacturer points (right?) whereas the Brazil WRT has registreret as a Manu team and will therefor be the only MINI team able to score Manu points .... unless Araújo's team will register for Manu points (anybody know that?).
Live now the presentation of the new Mini!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Livery of Armindo is very cool but the car they showed it on is a normal road going MINI Countryman.
5 stars to Armindo's MINI livery.
GO Armindo!!! GO
Here is the livery, still, in a 3D of the Paris Show presentation car! But... you got the looks of it!
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/6...inalstudio.jpg
Thank you for the support Francis and André :)
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